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Mona Lisa 2022 pre DME

323 calories 35.9 g 12 oz
Beer Stats
Method: All Grain
Style: Russian Imperial Stout
Boil Time: 180 min
Batch Size: 5 gallons (fermentor volume)
Pre Boil Size: 10 gallons
Post Boil Size: 5.5 gallons
Pre Boil Gravity: 1.053 (recipe based estimate)
Post Boil Gravity: 1.096 (recipe based estimate)
Efficiency: 45% (brew house)
Source: Stone / BYO / Custom
Hop Utilization: 99%
Calories: 323 calories (Per 12oz)
Carbs: 35.9 g (Per 12oz)
Created: Wednesday November 3rd 2021
1.096
1.028
9.0%
88.0
35.4
5.4
n/a
 
Fermentables
Amount Fermentable Cost PPG °L Bill %
22 lb US - Pale 2-Row22 lb Pale 2-Row 37 1.8 79.1%
2.50 lb Crisp Malting - Amber2.5 lb Amber 33.1 27.5 9%
0.50 lb American - Roasted Barley0.5 lb Roasted Barley 33 300 1.8%
1.25 lb American - Caramel / Crystal 120L1.25 lb Caramel / Crystal 120L 33 120 4.5%
0.50 lb United Kingdom - Black Patent0.5 lb Black Patent 27 525 1.8%
0.01 lb Flaked Oats0.01 lb Flaked Oats 33 2.2 0%
17 oz Dry Malt Extract - Light17 oz Dry Malt Extract - Light 42 4 3.8%
27.82 lbs / 0.00
 
Hops
Amount Variety Cost Type AA Use Time IBU Bill %
1.50 oz Warrior1.5 oz Warrior Hops Pellet 16 Boil 60 min 88.03 100%
1.50 oz / 0.00
 
Mash Guidelines
Amount Description Type Start Temp Target Temp Time
9.5 gal Infusion 152 °F 152 °F 60 min
Starting Mash Thickness: 1 qt/lb
Starting Grain Temp: 65 °F
 
Other Ingredients
Amount Name Cost Type Use Time
4 tbsp Phosphoric acid Water Agt Mash --
 
Yeast
RVA Yeast Labs - RVA 101 Chico Ale
Amount:
1 Each
Cost:
Attenuation (custom):
70%
Flocculation:
Medium
Optimum Temp:
67 - 73 °F
Starter:
Yes
Fermentation Temp:
-
Pitch Rate:
1.0 (M cells / ml / ° P) 433 B cells required
0.00 Yeast Pitch Rate and Starter Calculator
Priming
CO2 Level: 2.75 Volumes
 
Target Water Profile
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Ca+2 Mg+2 Na+ Cl- SO4-2 HCO3-
24 5 26 12 17 52
Mash Chemistry and Brewing Water Calculator
 
Notes

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2/18/2022
adjusted volume and turned up the projected attenuation

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2/16/2022
last minute pulling out the oats. worried about stuck mash and wont be able to babysit....

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2/15/2022
got water report updating to that, looks like ph will be a little high so adding a little phosphoric acid.

thinking about mash. G40 is 11 gal in mash so we'll go 1 qt/lb mash thickness on 28 lbs grain. adding a line for DME in case we go to that later.

looks like it will be a little over 7 gallons strike water and 5 gallons sparge water.

pitching 1 jar of RVA 101 into almost a gallon of 1040 starter wort 2 days before. no stir plate.

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2/8/2022
wondering if this will all fit in the GF. could possibly do it all in the cooler or split between the two.

thinking about setting this up early in the day to mash during work and have it boil for 3 hours while i do dinner/bedtimes. setup the GF in the driveway if possible - will be a lot of steam.

see big beer schedule https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gaWvnYevKP9I8mmRzW54MrnqfOVuWlsOEhzyezW-kaY/edit#gid=0

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1/16/2022
adding notes to sparge strategy to try to achieve decent efficiency.
adjusting yeast - use rva 132 plus 3L starter

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12/1/2021

  • adding oats and removing DME for now.
    adjusting recipe for 65% efficiency and trying to hit 10%abv counting the oats as zero points contribution.
    probably want to use a grain bag if possible
    ** remember to take preboil gravity, and throughout. maybe last 10 minutes of the boil take gravity and decide whether or not to throw in some DME
  • adjusting to 2 hour boil
  • will plan to double mash.
    not sure the plan for that because g40 will be maxed out at 10g preboil and thats without grain
    ...maybe just take the first mash out and put the 2nd one in. then take it out and sparge to get to volume? will be leaving behind sugars in first mash...
    ** ...alternatively sparge both mashes. after first mash and sparge and mash is pulled, should have about 6-7 gallons, that should leave enough space to drop the 2nd mash in. when that comes out, i would think we'd then have 5-6 gallons left. and will have to sparge to get the rest of the way. 2nd mash will have absorbed some of the 1st mash wort so it should probably be richer in the end for more sparging?
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    11/3/2021

    RECIPE REBUILD
  • reducing roasted barley from 1.25 down to 0.5
  • reducing black patent from 1.25 to 0.5
    ** wanted to use less but keeping it here to get within SRM for style
  • adding 1lb 120L for flavor and body
  • get rid of the fricking kviek!!! change to london3
  • adjusting efficiency to 70% :
    going to 2 hour boil
    im now on G40 which has been doing 2gal/hr so we'll go from 10g down to 6 during a 2 hour boil

    for yeast would need rva 132 200B pack and a 2L starter or equivalent

    todo :
  • need to figure out yeast requirements (packs, starters...)
  • consider oats
    its 21 lb grain...consider double mash
    ...if double mash consider more base grain and less DME
    ** any changes to grain bill, try to keep abv at 10%...


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    11/2/2021
    this brew came out tasting funky again. submitted to JRHB dominion cup they said umami and i think that is correct. This is the third time this has happened to varying degrees, I previously thought it might be bad ingredients but I think hothead and/or too much roasted malt is to blame...

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    5/1/21
    Not sure what happened only came to 1.100 OG even after the 2 hour boil and DMe. It was 1075 before the DME.

    Last minute adding 2 lb base malt and reducing DME. Gonna play by ear how much dme to add
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    4/30/21
    booting this back up for big brew day with ryan tomorrow. we are doing two 5 gallon mash sparges into my 15 gallon kettle to boil all at once so that could change things. im expecting better efficiency even without the dry malt extract. plan to boil 90 minutes, check gravity, then potentially add 3 or 6 lbs total DME for the 10 gallon batch. i think we will need 14 gallons to start, boil down to 11 or 11.5, leave 1 behind for trub.
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    5/25/2020
    FG 1.036 (cold sample)
    appears the starter wasnt necessary and didnt do anything anyway. Hit an official 10%
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    5/11/2020
    SG 1.036 - made a 2x starter from a new hothead pack and tossed half of it into the batch.
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    5/2/2020
    SG 1.041
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    4/27/2020
    SG 1.045 fermented like crazy the first couple days just off the kveik pack no starter.
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    4/16/2020
    brew day. Idk what just happened I hit 1.112 and high volume really, couldnt tell exact because of the foam but maybe it was only 5. I guess eff prob goes up if u add a lot of DME. This could be disaster or awesome
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    4/15/2020
    just changing the batch size from 6.5 down to 5.5 and taking the 2row down from 15lb to 12lb to still arrive at 10%. considering using kviek yeast for this....

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    3/24/2020
    revamping this for another attempt. shamefully adding dme and predicting over 70 eff to land at 10%. other than that no real changes. worried it might be too bitter hoppy? would like to NOT split the batch and just do 2 vanilla beans. bourbon oak would be nice but i feel that the failure of the last batch was from trying to do too much at once.
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    9/30/19
    brewed this on the road, came out with more than 6 gallons at 1.080 which was a mistake shouldve boiled longer. also used some old hops which may be putting off strange flavors.

    9/23/19
    base recipe is Stone RIS clone found in byo magazine. recipe is scant, and doesnt really add up : https://byo.com/recipe/stone-imperial-russian-stout-clone/ . posted recipe is for 65% efficiency so actually less efficient than my system but i added a pound more base malt anyway to try to get over 10%abv. yeast is a little unclear wlp002 listed 65-70% attenuation so we will have to be perfect and hit 70% to get over 10%abv. but then this amounts to 1030 FG, recipe is listed at 1020. could use wlp007 english dry ale if hittin FG was a concern but i think extra sweetness in this beer is going to be ok.

    ==========MISC NOTES=============
    mona lisa stout

    ORANGE
    austin homebrew
    http://austinhomebrew.com/assets/images/RCPPDF/09611.pdf
    1/4oz bitter
    1/2oz sweet

    https://brewgr.com/recipe/59297/chocolate-orange-stout-oatmeal-stout-recipe
    fresh orange peel and juice
    (essentially a whole orange)

    mrbeer
    https://www.mrbeer.com/barleys-brew-chocolate-orange-stout
    4oz bakers unsweetened chocolate
    2 medium oranges
    take off the skins but not too much pith
    they soak skins in 1/2 cup vodka, adding allof it
    maybe use a thin glass so the vodka covers more

    final thoughts
    use the brewers peel sweet and bitter, soak in vodka with vanilla bean
    use thin glass
    add the whole thing
    optional : plus the orange juice


    CHERRY
    austin homebrew
    http://austinhomebrew.com/assets/images/RCPPDF/02071.pdf
    cherry flavoring

    AHA
    https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipe/choc-full-o-cherry-porter/
    frozen sour cherries

    HBT
    https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/chocolate-cherry-stout.326884/
    cherry juice concentrate
    might be better in reducing sugar and other flavors....

    final stand
    a) i guess prob just use frozen cherries. not sour! sweet/dark any other kind than sour
    b) cherry juice concentrate? how sour?
    Dark cherries. Aha recipe calls for 5 to 10 lb per 10 gal batch. I think I will go with 5. For split batch 3.333


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