Recipe Builder Mash Type selections: What do they do?

[Mallonee's Malt]

I'm trying to adapt my new Christmas toy - a BeerMKR into the recipe builder.

It's an interesting and clever device but it combines some brewing steps and puts process breakpoints in different places.

As nearly as I can model it the mashing step is basically the same as BIAB. It brings water temperature in the grain (slowly) up to about 160F and then drops it back to do mashing and Pasteurization. No boil.

My question is: How do all of the options in the mashing schedule affect the math and process?

What is a "temperature mash" procedurally and how does that affect the calculations? There may already be a mash process listed here that does what I need it to do, but I can't find any documentation on what happens and what is assumed if you select one or another option. I saw a reference that the recipe builder "knows" that a decoction doesn't add water.

And seriously, what calculation is there for Vorlauf?

 

[Yooper]

I'm trying to adapt my new Christmas toy - a BeerMKR into the recipe builder.

It's an interesting and clever device but it combines some brewing steps and puts process breakpoints in different places.

As nearly as I can model it the mashing step is basically the same as BIAB. It brings water temperature in the grain (slowly) up to about 160F and then drops it back to do mashing and Pasteurization. No boil.

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My question is: How do all of the options in the mashing schedule affect the math and process?

What is a "temperature mash" procedurally and how does that affect the calculations? There may already be a mash process listed here that does what I need it to do, but I can't find any documentation on what happens and what is assumed if you select one or another option. I saw a reference that the recipe builder "knows" that a decoction doesn't add water.

And seriously, what calculation is there for Vorlauf?

It sounds like you do a temperature AND infusion, sort of. You can use Strike or infusion for your step so that you can get the water amount correct. For vorlauf, that is a mash step but it's in the instructions and not an infusion.

 

[Pricelessbrewing]

To add a little more, we do have an update planned/coming that will hopefully clarify what each step does as well as clean up the list of steps.

 

[Mallonee's Malt]

To add a little more, we do have an update planned/coming that will hopefully clarify what each step does as well as clean up the list of steps.

Oh, thanks. I think I finally realized that some of those were for brewday instructions.
Yes explanation for where the different mash step affect the math would be appreciated.

I'm coming to the conclusion that BeerMKR is a different model that forces some different steps. Fun, though. I've already brewed more batches this calendar year than I did the last two years combined and I'm about to embark on a specific recipe refinement because of it.

 

[Mallonee's Malt]

@Pricelessbrewing Did that update ever happen? I still can't find what the different items in the dropdown actually do nor can I find why I would select a particular one.

 

[Mont Y. Märzen]

I wasn't aware any of them did anything. I thought it was all just for personal reference and to auto-edit the brewday steps.

Now, if you could specify a 'boil-off' rate for decoctions, input how much you are decocting, for how long, and have it tell you how much water you need to add, that would be sweet! (even better if it could estimate changes in color & fermentability, but I'm sure that's asking for the Moon)

I don't know how much hard data is out there to develop formulas for adjusting fermentability based on mash temps. If they do exist, and they could be incorporated or triggered by the mash steps, that would be fantastic. (again, quite a big ask, I'm sure.)

 

[Mallonee's Malt]

I'm pretty sure the different dropdowns change calculations somewhere. An infusion is expecting you to add water. I'm developing a recipe for someone with a grainfather so that is going to be a temperature change during the mash. I suppose heating with a HERMS system would be similar (both adding heat though methods are different). I do think some of those are just tags (and thus have no effect on the calculation).

What I'm looking for is a description of what each does and why it would be selected. It should be in the documentation somewhere.

 

[Yooper]

I'm pretty sure the different dropdowns change calculations somewhere. An infusion is expecting you to add water. I'm developing a recipe for someone with a grainfather so that is going to be a temperature change during the mash. I suppose heating with a HERMS system would be similar (both adding heat though methods are different). I do think some of those are just tags (and thus have no effect on the calculation).

What I'm looking for is a description of what each does and why it would be selected. It should be in the documentation somewhere.

I'm not sure what your question really is, but using a temperature step is there of course. Does this help at all: https://docs.brewersfriend.com/recipe-builder/recipe-setup