Lutra Kveik “Cold IPA” ?

Dave Y

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I’ve been toying with a cold IPA idea and noticed that

1) it’s Hot in Texas... We are in the ‘broil’ season
2) I have Lutra Kveik.

These 3 things cannot be a coincidence.
If I did use Lutra, would it instead be a hot IPA?

IDK, but right now I’m thinking a strong 2 row / Pils base, targeting about 6-6.25 ABV, some cascade will be involved and hopefully some of my home grown cascade. and some of my higher alpha hops- Idaho7, maybe Galaxy.

What do you lot think?
 
I've tried it before. It just never gets as clean tasting as lager yeast. Even lager yeast in the 60s F. Still a tasty beer tho
 
Agreed. I’ve used it once in a mash bill I’ve used as a German style lager. It was ... eh.
 
Yep, that runs from February to November, right?
What would Fonzie say? Correct-o-mundo.

I’m thinking ... splitting up peasant 2 row, barke pils, .5-1.0 # corn, maybe a pound of rye. I have all of this on hand; I know there’s some disagreement philosophically on whether or not to do adjuncts so I can opt to not use corn- still thinking on it. At 1# and with a solid 55-60 IBU, it shouldn’t even be noticeable. I’ll either step mash or mash in lower than my usual single infusion temp of 152F.

The Lutra should make short work of it.
I haven’t fully decided on the hops yet.
 
If it ain’t noticeable, then why use it.
 
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mash numbers were great, sparge... not so much, boiled an additional 10-12 minutes to get my hoped for starting gravity for the boil.
 
Keep us posted on how it tastes if you get a chance. I’m planning on using Lutra a bunch after making a quick Mexican Lime Lager w it. I’m interested in how it works with different styles.
 
One of the local breweries here uses lutra for their lagers. Should work ok? also any off flavors would fit with the style IMO. fruity yeast character should be covered by the tropical hops?
 
I don’t expect big hits of aroma from either hop but I am shooting for balance tipped slightly in favor of bitter, with good hop flavor from the whirlpool.
I’m fermenting in the high 70’s to 84F, so warm but not HOT. We’ll see what happens.
 
Keep us posted on how it tastes if you get a chance. I’m planning on using Lutra a bunch after making a quick Mexican Lime Lager w it. I’m interested in how it works with different styles.

I've used it- and I dislike lutra and really can pick it out a mile away. I know, I know- everyone says it's clean but it reminds me a little of the off-flavor of S04 when fermented a little bit too warm. In something with a lot of fruity hops, it may be ok but I have never tasted a beer that used it that I found really clean and tasty.
 
This is a cascade / cashmere hop beer start to finish. Small dose up front, small dose near the end of the boil and a whirlpool.
Dry hopped with 3 ounces each for a ~6 gallon beer in the fermenter. Though after sampling, I’m closer to 5 gallons :)

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You can see it’s a bit on the hazy side, but TBF, there’s a pretty hefty whirlpool and dry hop. Fermentation was under pressure, at between 80-85F with the exception of night one, where I chilled to 78F hoping to slow the Lutra down a little.
SHYEAH. I woke up to a tilt reading of 1.026, so I pitched the dry hops that morning.
Fermentation went to 1.010 and I dropped temps to 72F for a few days and then cold crashed as best I could in TX heat. I actually hit 38-39F for a little bit but during the daytime couldn’t get lower than 42. I kegged it for a day and took this sample.

1) needs more gas for sure, but since it fermented under pressure, there’s a good start for carbonation.
2) best whirlpool hopping I’ve done - hat tip to the riptide pump.
3) it’s on the bitter side of balanced, with good aroma and hop flavor. Despite the 1.095-1.010 FG, body is nice, flavor is where you’d expect it to be for a 66IBU beer. Even so, it’s tentatively passed the neighbor test.

I’ll transfer it to the kegerator and get it on gas hopefully tomorrow. I’ve been charging it with co2 and letting it sit for the last 2 days due to a lack of room but as luck would have it I just finished off 2 kegs, so with some jockeying, I can get all the current beers charged. My current setup is:

1x full size fridge converted to a kegerator w/ 4 taps, and room for 5x 5 gallon kegs.
1x kegerator, 1 c02 tap, 1 nitro tap and room for one more keg on gas.
1x kegerator, 3 c02 taps for 2.5 gallon kegs. I could fit 2x 5 gallon kegs but it’s tight. This was my first kegerator, which I got with Amazon points + about $75. I upgraded the tower to 3 taps though.
1x full size fridge for 5x 5 gallon keg storage. If I get ambitious I’ll cut 1-2 taps into it, but the bigger need is to plumb in c02.

So, would I do this again?
Yes. I’d probably drop the initial hop charge entirely or to a really low amount as west coast IPA level IBU’s aren’t my wheel house. That said, the cascade & cashmere combo is complimentary. It should be since they’re kind of related. My target was 6.25%, I got 6.4% and IBU’s are right where I was targeting, about 65 IBU.

It’s a very clean ‘malt and hops’ flavor profile. No funky esters or aromas.


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I don’t really celebrate Oktoberfest, mostly we celebrate the drought here, so my Märzens are called ‘droughtfest’. I just moved ’25 batch one on to the tap. It’s been on low psi c02 for, well months. My initial impression on batch 1 is ... heavy for a 6% lager. good flavor but really malt forward. Fortunately it’s not super sweet.

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My Altbier. Very reminiscent of the first partial mash Alt I brewed those many, many years ago. I keep talking about adding in some more hops for a Dusseldorf style, but my neighbor- another brewer- shoots me down every time, browbeating me to not change it.

So the Lutra IPA will get done again, with a couple tweaks here and there. Though to argue with the turnaround time and results.
 

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