What are you drinking right now?

[Sunfire96]

Helles. Preseason games are kind of boring but it’s football!View attachment 35283

 

[Craigerrr]

Yes indeed. But mine isn’t as good as theirs: they’ve made that recipe a few more times than I have.
It does lose a little something in the can.

Great, this is up next but I think I will forgo the decoction, and use melanoidin

 

[Brew Cat]

Great, this is up next but I think I will forgo the decoction, and use melanoidin

no shortcuts
besides its not the same
decoction brings so much more to the table I don't care what people say

 

[Donoroto]

back in the day I tried using the yeast from a couple bottles of Erdinger built up

So did I (but Franziskaner). Turns out it is different yeast from what they use for fermentation.

 

[Donoroto]

Great, this is up next but I think I will forgo the decoction, and use melanoidin

This is what I do. It is why they came up with melanoidin malt in the first place.

 

[Brew Cat]

So did I (but Franziskaner). Turns out it is different yeast from what they use for fermentation.

Yeah I found that out also which is odd because to pour from the bottle you usually swirl the last bit and pour on top

 

[Brew Cat]

This is what I do. It is why they came up with melanoidin malt in the first place.

I've done it both ways with and without decoction mash. Actually I didn't decoct the heffe I'm drinking now and even after a month it's still holding up the flavor. I save the melenoidin for my Bock and Marzen styles although I prefer victory malt. I use caramunich in my heffenweissen. Melenoidin can easily overpower it. I might use it in a dunkelweissen though. I see a lot of people use it. I think the decoction gives the wort more depth and in turn gives the beer more depth not just from producing melenoidin
I brew my Schneider Weisse both ways and I can tell the difference. I'm not saying one is better than the other just different. But if I have the time I always decoct.
Later today I'm kegging a cream ale I decocted, never did that before
It's all good

 

[Megary]

Last years Barleywine. It’s one of those nights.

 

[Brew Cat]

This is what I do. It is why they came up with melanoidin malt in the first place.

I thought melanoidin was originally made for extract brewers to mimic all grain

 

[Josh Hughes]

 

[Donoroto]

I thought melanoidin was originally made for extract brewers to mimic all grain

In 1897, when melanoidins were first discovered, extract brewing wasn’t a thing, but decoctions were. And with the modernization of brewing process equipment around the turn of the century, decoctions were an inconvenient way to step-mash. It turned out that decoctions produced melanoidins, so the chemically-equivalent use of the specialty grain was adopted.

 

[Brew Cat]

In 1897, when melanoidins were first discovered, extract brewing wasn’t a thing, but decoctions were. And with the modernization of brewing process equipment around the turn of the century, decoctions were an inconvenient way to step-mash. It turned out that decoctions produced melanoidins, so the chemically-equivalent use of the specialty grain was adopted.

Come on you asked AI didn't you?

 

[Brew Cat]

Come on you asked AI didn't you?

History of Malt Extract​

Malt extract has a long history, dating back to ancient times. It was produced using a variant of the brewing process, which involved malted grains

 

[Brew Cat]

I guess cutting corners is nothing new

 

[Donoroto]

Come on you asked AI didn't you?

Nope. Those are my own words.

 

[Sunfire96]

 

[Brew Cat]

thing of beauty