The grain I want to use is not listed - help!

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  1. Yooper

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    We should have the fixes released later this evening!
     
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    I really liked the country tags, too. I don't do recipes by producer, rather selecting German pilsner for my German styles, Belgian for Belgians, you get the picture. And Black Lion, where ya from? I'm a Muhlenberg County boy myself....

    And Yooper, please forgive - your post came in while I was posting this.
     
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    Another "custom" malt maker that is widely distributed in NZ, Oz and South East Asia is Cooper's from Australia. I've found that any recipe with a custom malt is not included in the mash calculations of a brew session.

    Thanks for the attention to detail.
     
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    And the Joe White Items!
     
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    I'm in 2019 (December so almost 2020) and I am disappointed that 3 Joe White Items I want to use are not on the list.

    Additionally, I will be steeping them NOT as part of a mash yet I have to add them in the fermentable section as the steeping section doesn't allow me to ADD my own?
     
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    Could you specify what those three items are? While anyone can add them to the user contributed public ingredient catalog, I'll try and do so this afternoon when I get home.

    At the moment the only options in BF are steeping grains are either to mash them, or to use the option for "late addition" which will include the fermentable in the post boil gravity calculations.

    We are working on a plan to implement more options for more variable ingredient additions but it will need a good deal of planning and testing before the update goes live and I cannot say when that might be.
     
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    #48 NattyJ, Nov 30, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2019
    Definitely.
    Also as a work around I used the suggestion with listing it as part of 'My Inverntory' at least I could the ADD them to the recipe. So that idea at least works.

    The Jow White stuff is quite common in Australia so adding all 10-20 would be best but the three I used are

    Joe White - Crytal Malt (aka medium) EBC 140 - 160 = L of 53 - 60
    Jow White - Crystal Malt Light EBC 100 - 140 = L of 30 - 53
    Joe White - Roasted Barley EBC 1200 - 1800 = L o f 450 - 675

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    The Joe White ingredients are listed with an EBC rather than L. They are also listed with a range?
    For my own inventory I used the upper colour.

    I could send pdf with the list and that way you could add all grains over time? I think most of them would be used by Australian's pretty regularly given their availability.

    For the ppg I used a 'generic' meausurement as I could NT find this information anywhere.

    I can send what I used for my inventory listing?

    So the other items I suggest adding and could send though more info are:

    - Caramalt
    - Crystal Malt Dark
    - White Amber
    - Chocolate Malt
    - Wheat Malt

    There are a couple of others of course.

    Additionally - It in may just be a naming convention issue, I could only find TWO Briess liquid extracts listed with the CBW naming.

    I had to add the following to m inventory :

    Briess CBW Pale Ale Liquid Malt Extract

    But I think it would make sense to have their liquid malt extracts

    Briess CBW

    - Pilsen Light
    - Golden Light
    - Munich
    - Sparkling Amber
    - Porter
    - Traditional Dark Liquid
    - Rye
    - Bavarian Wheat
    -

    The Vienna and another one were listed.

    The other extracts popular ones in Australia that I think 'should' be listed are the Liquid ME's by

    Morgan's and Coopers.
    That's my 2 cents and happy to help.

    Thanks for prompt reply and support.

    Lastly, I will have to check the user-contributed Public Ingredient section/ability.

    *Edit
    Also I could choose Czech as the country for the Briess item.
    That might not be a biggy IF the Briess items are added to the man database.

    Cheers
     
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    I didn't read your entire post, but just wanted to point out that, as all malts typically have a range, you could just as easily pick an existing malt that is real close to what you are using. I have had great results doing this myself.
     
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    Yeah I thought that. So pretty much any Pale Ale Liquid Malt Extract is gonna be the same.
    It's more to make sure - for replicating exact recipes myself.
    That way I can try a different cans and see and by having these listed I can be accurate is all

    I agree that for general recipe creation and recording a generic listing will usually suffice.

    I do like having things accurate is all.
     
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    Fair enough. Two years in and there are more variables in my process than there are in this malt and that malt. At the end of the day I make beer, and I am happy with the results. 2 row is 2 row, and C60 is C60. I am not skilled enough to tell the difference between this malter or that malter. Brew on brother
     
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    I've added all of the grains listed in the latest Joe white catalog I could find on the cargill.au website with the exception of "raw wheat" as no properties were listed, such as PPG, or color. For the other fermentables, the median value was used for the color. If it listed 400-600, 500 was used.

    https://www.cargill.com.au/en/doc/1432108259005/joe-white-maltings-catalogue-pdf.pdf

    These won't be added to the public catalog immediately, as they have to be reviewed and approved. In the meantime, you can use this recipe if you would prefer.

    https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/917591/joe-white-test
     
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    Cheers priceless I'll be using Joe white base malts for awhile having nearly 50 kg in stock.
     
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    Following up on this, the Joe white malts have been approved and are available for public use in the catalog.

    Let me know if you notice any issues!
     
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    Great.

    And thank you from many Aussies who use JW!
     
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