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    #2 Trialben, Feb 10, 2020
    I havnt brewed one but I'd go all Vienna and see what that brings.
     
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    #3 Iliff Avenue Brewhouse, Feb 10, 2020
    I would definitely go with the majority of vienna malt
     
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    #4 Nosybear, Feb 10, 2020
    I'd recommend 100% Vienna, subtracting enough for mash pH control with acidulated malt, maybe 2% - 3% Carafoam for head retention. Vienna Lager is a simple beer, just a little toastier than a Pils.
     
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    #5 BilltownBrewingCo, Feb 11, 2020
    Excellent. I appreciate the advice, love the carafoam idea. Will also likely need that touch of acidulated...
     
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    #8 Iliff Avenue Brewhouse, Feb 11, 2020
    I personally would swap the carafoam for caramunich and add a couple oz of carafa to get the color right. Just me...
     
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    #9 BilltownBrewingCo, Feb 11, 2020
    In most cases, I would agree with you. However, I am brewing this along with 8 other beers for our annual Crawfish boil and tasting. Being lighter will help it look different from the maibock that will be taped right next to it
     
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    #10 Nosybear, Feb 11, 2020
    You're actually amplifying both the caramel and color away from style. I'm not knocking it at all, it's your beer, but it would be too dark and too sweet for a traditional Vienna lager.
     
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    #11 Iliff Avenue Brewhouse, Feb 11, 2020
    Sorry I haven't seen many vienna lagers that are 5 SRM. I personally wouldn't use any cara malt in a vienna but I would try to match the style guidelines for color. I would probably go all vienna with enough carafa special to make it amber colored. I guess I'm crazy.
     
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    #12 Nosybear, Feb 11, 2020
    I honestly haven't seen too many traditional European Vienna lagers, the style having been commercially extinct for a great number of years. For the Mexican variants, you are correct in using caramel and adding color. I believe the style guidelines are attempting to separate the two where the Vienna lager I'm talking about would land in historicals.
     
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    #13 Iliff Avenue Brewhouse, Feb 11, 2020
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    So the Vienna Lager style in the BJCP guidlines refers to the Mexican variety? Good to know and makes sense since my international amber lager scores in the 40s when entered as a Vienna Lager. I do see some notes now about historical versions although it doesn't mention that they should be gold in color. Good to know for future reference.

    Carry on. Sorry to sidetrack...
     
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    #14 BilltownBrewingCo, Feb 11, 2020
    No worries guys. Appreciate the info!
     
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    #15 Trialben, Feb 12, 2020
    Nail it and it will be delicious ;)!
     
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    #16 Nosybear, Feb 12, 2020
    Agreed. Either way will make a good beer. One is more European (and extinct, by the way) while the other is more Mexican (and thriving). Your choice: I'd make the extinct European style. You may like Modello more.
     
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    #17 Iliff Avenue Brewhouse, Feb 12, 2020
    Sounds like they should remove the category then and just go with international amber lager.
     
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    #18 Nosybear, Feb 12, 2020
    I believe the intent is to put the classic European style into the Historicals (Category 27). Don't know what they're going to do with the current style - International Amber would be a good landing place for it.
     
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