Which Hops to use

[Nola_Brew]

Looking to brew two PA in the next month. I'm aiming for something citrusy. Would like to incorporate two or three hops into each batch.
Grain bill#1
MO 48.4%
Vienna 25.8%
Munich 17.2%
C20 4.3%
C60 4.3%
Yeast US05, Conan, 1318 or 1272 if I can get some.

As for hops, Citra is a must. Want all hops added late. I want to add one or two of the following:
Chinook
Mosaic
Centennial
Amarillo
Galaxy
Simcoe

GB #2
Pale Malt 76.2%
Munich 10.9
Carapils 4.3%
C15 4.3%
White Wheat 4.3%
Yeast US05, Conan, 1318 or 1272

Open to any hop combinations not used in GB #1.

Thoughts please!

 

[oliver]

personally I'm really big on Amarillo + Citra.... Citra + Galaxy is my #1 go to for pales, bitter with a tiny bit of citra, then ramp up additions at 20, 10, 5, 3, 2, 1, galaxy is also quite the dry hop addition.

 

[J A]

My go-to combo is Simcoe, Centennial (or Cascade) and Citra. I tend to add them in that order with Simcoe at 20 to emphasize the dank-pine notes. Then double down on all three at flame-out. Even without dry hopping, the aroma is lush. I'm going to switch out the Citra for Mosaic next time I do it. I'm eager to try that combo.
I think your first grain bill may be a little sweet with that much Crystal. Even without much Crystal and with good attenuation, those fruity hops trick your brain into tasting sugars.
Second one looks great, though I might trade the Carapils for more wheat. Another hop combo that I'm very keen to use is Chinook, Centennial, Columbus and Simcoe. You've got 3 out of 4 of those and they might lay down a big foundation to support a heavy flame-out addition of the Galaxy.

 

[Nola_Brew]

personally I'm really big on Amarillo + Citra.... Citra + Galaxy is my #1 go to for pales, bitter with a tiny bit of citra, then ramp up additions at 20, 10, 5, 3, 2, 1, galaxy is also quite the dry hop addition.

I just did a Galaxy pale ale that I really like. I have tried Citra + Galaxy and it was great.

 

[Nola_Brew]

My go-to combo is Simcoe, Centennial (or Cascade) and Citra. I tend to add them in that order with Simcoe at 20 to emphasize the dank-pine notes. Then double down on all three at flame-out. Even without dry hopping, the aroma is lush. I'm going to switch out the Citra for Mosaic next time I do it. I'm eager to try that combo.
I think your first grain bill may be a little sweet with that much Crystal. Even without much Crystal and with good attenuation, those fruity hops trick your brain into tasting sugars.
Second one looks great, though I might trade the Carapils for more wheat. Another hop combo that I'm very keen to use is Chinook, Centennial, Columbus and Simcoe. You've got 3 out of 4 of those and they might lay down a big foundation to support a heavy flame-out addition of the Galaxy.

I really like Simcoe so may go with Simcoe and Mosaic for the 1st batch and Citra & Galaxy for the second one.
Maybe I'll cut back on the crystal on the first GB. Don't really want a sweet beer.

 

[J A]

I really like Simcoe so may go with Simcoe and Mosaic for the 1st batch and Citra & Galaxy for the second one.
Maybe I'll cut back on the crystal on the first GB. Don't really want a sweet beer.

A pinch of Chinook somewhere in the mix on either one of those brews might add a little depth and complexity, but I don't think you can go wrong with those combinations.

 

[Nola_Brew]

Made some tweaks:
GB#2
75.7 PA
10.8 Vienna
3.6% C20
3.6% carapils
6.3% flaked Oats
Conan or 1318
Warrior FWH
equal amt of citra/galaxy at 15, 0 and 5 days dry hop
IBU 40

GB#1
66% MO
10.4% Vienna
10.4% Munich
3.5% C20
2.8% C60
3.5% Carapils
3.5% acid malt (this amt may change depending on ph)
Warrior FWH
Mosaic/Simcoe/Centennial @ 10, 0 (equal amts)
Simcoe DH for 5 days. May add Chinook as a dry hop

Thoughts?

 

[J A]

I think I'd have to choose Mosaic for the dry-hop on that last one.
But they look good!

 

[Head First]

Centennial would go as dry hop in #2 also. It should blend with the sweeter malt bill.
I like #1 the way it is.

 

[ACBEV]

Columbus
Centennial
Cascade

Would be my choice.... In fact I do!

 

[J A]

Columbus
Centennial
Cascade

Would be my choice.... In fact I do!

My two favorite IPAs so far have been Columbus/Cascade and Columbus/Centennial. All three together would be just as good if not better.