Irish Red, Inventory cleaner

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  1. sn00ky

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    Hello everyone,

    https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/501884/irish-red-in-prog

    Started with a Kilkenny Clone, by Hipster (Thanks!). Got to looking, adjusted, seeing what' s on hand...decided to modify to help use up some grain that has been kicking around. Looking for feedback before I commit to it.

    Aimed for:
    Lower ABV - dropped 2 row
    Using up golden promise in place of 2 row
    Using up 60 entirely
    Use 120 to adjust recipe
    Lowered challenger 90 min to follow lower grain bill

    Force carb to 2 volumes CO2, served Nitro (comments pls!)

    Also, I intend on doing an experiment: Ferment main batch of 5.5 gal with Irish Ale Yeast, WLP004, separate out 2, 3/4 gal jugs and pitch Saflager - German Lager Yeast S-23, and Safale - English Ale Yeast S-04.

    First time making any amount of changes to someone's recipe, certainly open to criticism.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    Looks good I just hope it turns out red enough:). Will be interesting to see what those other yeasts do to the wort especially the lager yeast compared to the Irish and English ale yeasts.
     
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    I couldn't help but go look and sure enough I was on a different color scale (EBC Morey). Your right, the color is lighter I just hadn't noticed. I adjusted the 120 a little more; what's your opinion on that? I am looking for that nice pretty red / copper hue, but not sure if I can achieve it given those ingredients. Also thought about throwing 1/4 # of roasted barley (500 LOV) for kicks...
     
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    I havnt brewed a red ale yet but im sure a small amount of roasted barley will do the trick. Hopefuly someone with experience brewing this style can help.
     
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    looks good, whats the flavor?
     
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    Actually that one came out quite malty but easy drinking. did an IPA with a batch of the same grains and it was very good. This will be brewed again next up with a red IPA beside it. Probably more bittering in the IPA this time. The color was what I was showing Snooky about it. I was trying for that copper red tone.
     
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    yeah caramunich is very malty, I have several recipes with it in darker beers just wondered, looks good I like using RedX grain for red beers
     
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    This is definitely not an Irish Red here way to malty not near crisp enough. Oo4 yeast would help but i think ya could drop the cara malts and color would be ok.
     
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    That color is nice, very much resembles an Original 16 Copper Ale, which I think is great.

    When you say "definitely not an Irish red", by chance you referring to your example brew? Or my recipe?
     
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    The recipe I posted. To much in it to be a crisp Irish red. Just wanted to show you an example of color with those malts. The Caramunich would add a bit of that color but most of it comes from the C-75 and a touch of Roasted Barley. I capped it with the Roasted after the mash in and as it recirculated the red copper color came out. C-60 with a little C-120 may work but would need some roast in there for the redish hue.IMO Brew On!
     
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    That's awesome that you recommend the roasted in the mash as I had just discovered people doing that in research yesterday. Maybe toss it on top when I start mash out ? Using Herms setup.
    4 oz seems to add fair amount of color.
    This is what "late addition" is for in the recipe editor I think, the numbers seem to make sense anyway .

    Thanks !
     
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    Yes that would work. I haven't done much capping but doing it that way should be more color and less astringency, burnt flavor.
     
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    Well I went for it, primary fermentation is done and looking / tasting good, got a sample chilling now. Color is very close to the picture from head first and the tiny bit I had left sitting after sg check was clear. I am very excited to see how it turns out !
     
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    Not the clearest pictures but here it is, darker than intended (as i realized on brew day) but thr roast barley at end of mash worked great, no roast or coffee flavors that i or a friend detect! Smooth and definitely a great fit on the nitro tap.

    The lager sample that I fermented also has me satisfied. It feels lighter to drink, but carries much the same flavor to my palette, just less of it if that makes sense ? My descriptions are terrible lol. Also, the lager sample was force carbed in 2L PET.


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