Great price on entry level grain mill

Discussion in 'Brewing Photos & Videos' started by BOB357, Mar 2, 2018.

  1. BOB357

    BOB357 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Messages:
    3,987
    Likes Received:
    7,295
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Fallon, Nevada
    thunderwagn likes this.
  2. Ozarks Mountain Brew

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Messages:
    7,767
    Likes Received:
    3,976
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Managment
    Location:
    The Ozark Mountains of Missouri
    I've used them as well, good find
     
  3. Hawkbox

    Hawkbox Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2017
    Messages:
    3,746
    Likes Received:
    2,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Manager
    Location:
    Edmonton
    Interesting. I wish I knew someone near the border I could get stuff shipped through to Canada. Such a hassle up here.

    Edit, so what are peoples thoughts on 2 vs 3 roller mills? Is the $100 premium worth it? I'm still rocking a Corona mill.
     
  4. Nosybear

    Nosybear Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    9,400
    Likes Received:
    6,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Aurora, CO, USA
    Likely not at our scale. If I ever start milling my own grain, I'll do a 2-roller mill. Our LHBS uses them, motorized of course, and they work just fine.
     
    BOB357 likes this.
  5. Hawkbox

    Hawkbox Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2017
    Messages:
    3,746
    Likes Received:
    2,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Manager
    Location:
    Edmonton
    I don't really understand what the 3rd roller gets you, and my innate desire to not buy the wrong thing because it's cheap makes me really want to get a 3 roller one just in case.
     
  6. Nosybear

    Nosybear Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    9,400
    Likes Received:
    6,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Aurora, CO, USA
    A three roller mill has two crushing surfaces, the interface between the top two rollers and the interface between the bottom roller and one of the top rollers, depending on what direction the bottom roller turns. Anything that gets past the top two could be crushed by the bottom one. In practice, I don't think it makes a lot of difference. As mentioned above, I get a great crush from the two-roller mills at the homebrew store and they've been in service at least four years. A three-roller mill would get you a marginally better crush, as mentioned above. I can't see how it would make that much of a difference at our scale.
     
    BOB357 likes this.
  7. BOB357

    BOB357 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Messages:
    3,987
    Likes Received:
    7,295
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Fallon, Nevada
    I double mill my grains and figure that gives the same result as a 3 roller mill would.
     
    Hawkbox and jeffpn like this.
  8. Nosybear

    Nosybear Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    9,400
    Likes Received:
    6,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Aurora, CO, USA
    From an engineering perspective, that's exactly what you're doing with a 3-roller mill.
     
    BOB357 likes this.
  9. Head First

    Head First Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2012
    Messages:
    2,254
    Likes Received:
    2,455
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Back in the mountains
    Been following this post and got to thinking, how much malt will a crusher mill?
    So I checked my brewing report for mine and My "Barley Crusher" has gone through over 2300#s. The roll bushing have no more wear than when it was new, and I do check it every 5 batches or so. I have taken it completely apart for cleaning once last year, the second roller was gumming up a little in the bushings, but it cleaned out and has worked well since then.
    You could only guess how much one in a LHBS runs through.
     
  10. Hawkbox

    Hawkbox Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2017
    Messages:
    3,746
    Likes Received:
    2,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Manager
    Location:
    Edmonton
    That's good to know. I'm always paranoid on buying stuff so I appreciate the input.
     
  11. uk_brewer

    uk_brewer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2013
    Messages:
    215
    Likes Received:
    396
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    West Dundee, IL
    The idea of the three roller is to leave more of the husk intact. The first gap is set wider, first pass opens the grain without too much damage to the husk, the second pass crushes the kernel. Idea is less potential for a stuck mash. Milling twice through a tighter set gap doesn’t do this.

    After wearing out my barley crusher I upgraded to a three roller monster mill with the larger rollers.
     
    Mase likes this.
  12. Ozarks Mountain Brew

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Messages:
    7,767
    Likes Received:
    3,976
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Managment
    Location:
    The Ozark Mountains of Missouri
    I have a pretty wide gap in mine and some grain is smaller then others and I just saw the other day about a third of my grain was just smashed and not cracked open so I started double milling it and now the second time gets it not sure why, if I mill too fine I cant recirculate the speed I need too to keep my temperature correct with the pid
     
  13. Head First

    Head First Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2012
    Messages:
    2,254
    Likes Received:
    2,455
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Back in the mountains
    I have found if I mash in, recirculate a couple of minutes, stop and stir, the grain gets wetter and swells would be my guess and changes the viscosity of the mash so it doesn't compact as much when recirculating is started again.
     
  14. Ozarks Mountain Brew

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Messages:
    7,767
    Likes Received:
    3,976
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Managment
    Location:
    The Ozark Mountains of Missouri
    I've changed the way I mash recently, I'm starting to do that in a way, I start out in the 140's and let the grain get saturated for about 10 or 15 minutes, stir a few times then I recirculate while raising it to the target at a very slow speed, once it hits my target I do another stir and set my speed at full and start my timer for 60 minutes and leave it, that seams to get me more sugar than my standard way
     
    Head First likes this.
  15. thunderwagn

    thunderwagn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2015
    Messages:
    3,745
    Likes Received:
    7,282
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Loveland, CO
    I look at buying a grain mill all the time. Problem is, my lhbs' mill does such a fine job I really have a hard time justifying the price or mess at home. I'm a spoiled homebrewer. I've got an excellent homebrew shop, and most of the grains I use are grown on the properties surrounding my farm. I can see the malt house (Root Shoot) from my house. Pretty incredible!
     
    Mase likes this.
  16. soccerdad

    soccerdad Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2015
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    218
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location:
    South Georgia
    Me too, but it's part of my brew day therapy to crank it. I love mine.
     
    thunderwagn likes this.
  17. Head First

    Head First Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2012
    Messages:
    2,254
    Likes Received:
    2,455
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Back in the mountains
    My LHBS is 100 miles away. I can't drive for 5hrs for every batch so I buy bulk from them and don't want a bunch of milled grain sitting around getting stale. Usually my brew partner grinds the grain while I fill and salt the brew water in HLT.
     
  18. Hawkbox

    Hawkbox Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2017
    Messages:
    3,746
    Likes Received:
    2,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Manager
    Location:
    Edmonton
    I have a concrete mixing drill I use to run mine. Took me 5 minutes to do a 5 kg batch. It is kind of therapeutic though.

    I have 2 LHBS in 15 minutes either way but I just buy the bulk grains from them. I'd rather mill it myself personally.
     
  19. Nosybear

    Nosybear Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    9,400
    Likes Received:
    6,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Aurora, CO, USA
    Ditto that. Except for seeing Root Shoot, of course. I'd have to drive a few miles for that. But the brew shop's mill is very good, they brew themselves so they keep it set correctly, and as long as that's the case, I don't see a need for a mill.
     
    thunderwagn likes this.
  20. Ozarks Mountain Brew

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Messages:
    7,767
    Likes Received:
    3,976
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Managment
    Location:
    The Ozark Mountains of Missouri
    if you buy each batch every time that's fine and I'm starting to do that but if you buy grain in bulk, a mill is a must and very handy
     
    BOB357 likes this.

Share This Page

arrow_white