4th Attempt at Pale Ale

Not sure why your calculator assumes you would go from a pre boil gravity of 1.036 to a post boil gravity of 1.051. That’s quite the jump.
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If you hit preboil gravity and volume, there's no reason to miss OG unless your boil volume is different from expected. Fix your equipment profile numbers in the calculator.
Remember that gravity is meaningless without accurate volume reading if you're trying to predict what's going to happen with future brews.
 
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If you hit preboil gravity and volume, there's no reason to miss OG unless your boil volume is different from expected. Fix your equipment profile numbers in the calculator.
Remember that gravity is meaningless without accurate volume reading if you're trying to predict what's going to happen with future brews.
Thanks. Yep. I get it now. One issue I have is the calibration on my kettle is inaccurate. I know that so I pre-measure my water going in. A little difficult to get scientific after I pull the bag but I can get "close". Example; I put 8.4 gals in kettle....reads around 9 gals on kettle markings. No problem...I know what went in....so after pulling the bag it shows roughly 8 or a bit less.....so I can assume I am at about 7.5 gals as expected. Then, to your point and following advice I have been boiling a little less aggressively which may lead to slightly more volume post boil.

I currently assume Pre boil measurement was high due to inaccurate hydrometer reading. The math for determining pre boil seemed to work if I understood the sugar points right. Further, I assume the post boil OG calculation is amiss due to profile setting issues.

Next steps:

Adjust grain absorption if needed. I have pics of where the volumes landed against the kettle. I can recreate
New test boil off less aggressive.
Log new boil off rate IF needed.
Use the hydrometer I trust. :)

Thanks again to all.
 
Next steps:

Adjust grain absorption if needed. I have pics of where the volumes landed against the kettle. I can recreate
New test boil off less aggressive.
Log new boil off rate IF needed.
Use the hydrometer I trust. :)
Yes, defnitely get a handle on accurate grain absorption...if you're using a bag it can be tricky but try to squeeze it the same way every time if you can.
Boil off can be variable but try to be consistent. It's easiest to estimate a little low on boil off because you can always top up if your volume is less than expected. In general, estimate in a way that allows you to overcompensate and you won't have problems with low OG. I run recipes with an estimated efficiency that's on the low side of what I'm likely to get. Sometimes efficiency is quite a bit higher and I'll be 5 to 10 points high. I have the choice of diluting or adjusting hops accordingly.
One quirk that I noticed relatively consistently for a while was getting a higher than expected gravity reading at pre boil that didn't follow through after the boil (the math doesn't lie...the amount of sugar in a larger volume is the same after the volume changes so is very predictable with the Boil off and Dilution Calculator). A couple of factors can have an impact - temp for sure and possibly distribution of sugars in suspension. I sparge so I wait until all the wort is in the kettle and starting to heat. Then I stir very well and then get a sample that I cool carefully to the exact temp.
 
Yes, defnitely get a handle on accurate grain absorption...if you're using a bag it can be tricky but try to squeeze it the same way every time if you can.
Boil off can be variable but try to be consistent. It's easiest to estimate a little low on boil off because you can always top up if your volume is less than expected. In general, estimate in a way that allows you to overcompensate and you won't have problems with low OG. I run recipes with an estimated efficiency that's on the low side of what I'm likely to get. Sometimes efficiency is quite a bit higher and I'll be 5 to 10 points high. I have the choice of diluting or adjusting hops accordingly.
One quirk that I noticed relatively consistently for a while was getting a higher than expected gravity reading at pre boil that didn't follow through after the boil (the math doesn't lie...the amount of sugar in a larger volume is the same after the volume changes so is very predictable with the Boil off and Dilution Calculator). A couple of factors can have an impact - temp for sure and possibly distribution of sugars in suspension. I sparge so I wait until all the wort is in the kettle and starting to heat. Then I stir very well and then get a sample that I cool carefully to the exact temp.
Thanks. In the interest of accuracy and since graduating from extract to all grain........there is a new kettle in my future...Moving on From Bayou Classic to SS Brew Tech with more precise and detailed volume markings. I have had a SS BrewTech Fermenter for years....not sure why this took so long.
 

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