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GW had written notes on “small beer”. He was a documented Porter drinker as well.

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I tried making Porter with Molasses and a little bit goes a long way. So use the lightest you can find or maybe brown sugar. Not sure what bran hops is. Of course he may have sipped a bit because it was probably pretty nasty. Probably why cider was more popular in early America. He was a notable distiller of rye whiskey so I would imagine he might have used rye malt.
 
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I tried making Porter with Molasses and a little bit goes a long way. So use the lightest you can find or maybe brown sugar. Not sure what bran hops is. Of course he may have sipped a bit because it was probably pretty nasty. Probably why cider was more popular in early America. He was a notable distiller of rye whiskey so I would imagine he might have used rye malt.
GW was the preeminent distiller of his day, until he passed and Bushrod mismanaged the distillery and it burned down. The rebuilt distillery is an awesome tour in the spring when they distill. They are 99% old school; make their own tools, coop their own barrels, wood fired (the only one left in the US), there’s only one concession to modernity, a heat plate to dry the grains, courtesy of the Fairfax County fire marshall.

You’re right about the Molasses character, it can bitter the beer pretty quickly on its own, so offsetting it with something sweeter generally how to keep that in check. Also, you want ‘unsulfated’ molasses. The distillery was/is right next to the gristmill, so almost certainly they’d have used corn as well at some point, maybe not in this recipe - I don’t recall the era in which ‘small beer’ was documented. Note: I’m making a leap with the corn, as I don’t have any documented proof but again, they made cornmeal there right next to the distillery, which is only about 2.5 miles(?) from the mansion house.

Porter has a bit of a tortured history, so American Porter and particularly in the colonial era would certainly have adjuncts in it. So far, I know of some use of pumpkins, sweet potatoes, corn & molasses. I’m sure there’s more, and in the link above he calls small beer not so small; but originally, Porter had higher gravity and initially started decreasing in gravity due to taxes. A 6-7% abv beer would not have been uncommon in that era.

If you visit Northern Virginia and the distillery is open, it is worth the visit. I can safe you some financial pain - The unaged or ‘white dog’ rye sold from the distillery tastes like fresh cut grass, and is a bit on the ‘hot’ side. The aged rye, roughly 2x the already very high cost, is very good. If you decide to buy, the money does go to a good cause; the Ladies Association keeps the estate going.
 
GW was the preeminent distiller of his day, until he passed and Bushrod mismanaged the distillery and it burned down. The rebuilt distillery is an awesome tour in the spring when they distill. They are 99% old school; make their own tools, coop their own barrels, wood fired (the only one left in the US), there’s only one concession to modernity, a heat plate to dry the grains, courtesy of the Fairfax County fire marshall.

You’re right about the Molasses character, it can bitter the beer pretty quickly on its own, so offsetting it with something sweeter generally how to keep that in check. Also, you want ‘unsulfated’ molasses. The distillery was/is right next to the gristmill, so almost certainly they’d have used corn as well at some point, maybe not in this recipe - I don’t recall the era in which ‘small beer’ was documented. Note: I’m making a leap with the corn, as I don’t have any documented proof but again, they made cornmeal there right next to the distillery, which is only about 2.5 miles(?) from the mansion house.

Porter has a bit of a tortured history, so American Porter and particularly in the colonial era would certainly have adjuncts in it. So far, I know of some use of pumpkins, sweet potatoes, corn & molasses. I’m sure there’s more, and in the link above he calls small beer not so small; but originally, Porter had higher gravity and initially started decreasing in gravity due to taxes. A 6-7% abv beer would not have been uncommon in that era.

If you visit Northern Virginia and the distillery is open, it is worth the visit. I can safe you some financial pain - The unaged or ‘white dog’ rye sold from the distillery tastes like fresh cut grass, and is a bit on the ‘hot’ side. The aged rye, roughly 2x the already very high cost, is very good. If you decide to buy, the money does go to a good cause; the Ladies Association keeps the estate going.
Ok I did some research. Apparently he wrote this recipe while in camp with the troops. Probably wasn't meant to be anything great only satiate the misery of the soldiers. Like any southern officer I'm sure he had whiskey
 
What pray tell is a George Washington Small? I presume it is 200+ year old style/recipe.
Watched a documentary on the first (and possibly most important ever) president, it was a great watch, learned a lot!
A GW Small Beer is what George brewed on his plantation for his slaves as well was what was brewed during the Revolutionary War for his trips. The beer is very light in color and comes in at a 4.5% ABV. It is something I have wanted to do since visiting Mount Vernon a few years ago. I just have not had the gumption to do it. It is a very long process of steeping the wheat and a boil of over 3 hours according to research I have done and that of others who have tried this recipe. Small Beers were the OG Session Beers.
 
GW had written notes on “small beer”. He was a documented Porter drinker as well.

https://beerborg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5264
I am totally going to look into this and probably try a porter recipe as well. Just for the fun of it. Thank you for sharing this. I am using the recipe that was found in one of his journals for the the small beer. I alsop have a bottle of the whiskey from Mount Vernon.
 
Transferring recipes over to Brewfather. Not interested in paying for Brewer's Friend's calculator anymore. Of course I'll still be active here :)
 
The General was supplied Porter from Philly. Fist by Robert Hare, and another after Hare’s brewery burned down.
I am totally going to look into this and probably try a porter recipe as well. Just for the fun of it. Thank you for sharing this. I am using the recipe that was found in one of his journals for the the small beer. I also have a bottle of the whiskey from Mount Vernon.
Everyone has their take on ‘Hare’s Porter’, but nobody knows exactly what the recipe was because whatever documentation there was burned with the brewery. :-(

Safe bet: brown malt, coarsely roasted- remember at this era, we were still wood fired kilning. I’m not sure if we were using domestic 6 row or not or rye. I don’t find much evidence of rye in the beer but ... to get rye whiskey, surely they end up with ‘distillers beer’ so I find it hard to believe they didn’t try to develop it further. Local hops to Philly; local “within the colonies, able to be shipped by horse drawn cart”. Yeast? probably a propagated british strain

We should have a separate thread on the colonial era porter. I’ve tried my hand at it a few times and have some elements of the recipe I like.
FWIW, I used to live on ‘former 5 farms’ property and was a long time neighborhood ‘friend/member’. I got to get into the library and even the room with GW’s personal papers & books- pretty awesome.
 
The General was supplied Porter from Philly. Fist by Robert Hare, and another after Hare’s brewery burned down.

Everyone has their take on ‘Hare’s Porter’, but nobody knows exactly what the recipe was because whatever documentation there was burned with the brewery. :-(

Safe bet: brown malt, coarsely roasted- remember at this era, we were still wood fired kilning. I’m not sure if we were using domestic 6 row or not or rye. I don’t find much evidence of rye in the beer but ... to get rye whiskey, surely they end up with ‘distillers beer’ so I find it hard to believe they didn’t try to develop it further. Local hops to Philly; local “within the colonies, able to be shipped by horse drawn cart”. Yeast? probably a propagated british strain

We should have a separate thread on the colonial era porter. I’ve tried my hand at it a few times and have some elements of the recipe I like.
FWIW, I used to live on ‘former 5 farms’ property and was a long time neighborhood ‘friend/member’. I got to get into the library and even the room with GW’s personal papers & books- pretty awesome.
The tricky part would probably be the yeast. The grist probably had corn in it as well. Good chance it was a sour porter. I've made sour porter and also porter aged on Brett. I enjoyed them. That was probably a main feature of a colonial Porter
 
I don’t think it would have been sour by choice, but, it would be shipped in casks, and could be susceptible to wild yeast and infection from the barrels. Also, remember porter was bigger then, a solid 6.5-7% maybe more. We weren’t measuring gravity, doing water chemistry or much by way of sanitation; cleaning, but they weren’t using star san ;-)

This always intrigues me when I look into it every so often.
 
I don’t think it would have been sour by choice, but, it would be shipped in casks, and could be susceptible to wild yeast and infection from the barrels. Also, remember porter was bigger then, a solid 6.5-7% maybe more. We weren’t measuring gravity, doing water chemistry or much by way of sanitation; cleaning, but they weren’t using star san ;-)

This always intrigues me when I look into it every so often.
Well not by choice but inevitable using wooden barrels. It was probably what everyone was used to. Think about it. Inferior ingredients, inferior temperature control, no yeast open fermentation and dirty wooden barrels
 
"A popular English cookbook owned by Martha Washington contained detailed instructions for brewing, as well as recipes for reclaiming beer that had spoiled.”

I wonder what they were doing. It does seem to bear out the souring theory.
 
Well like I said I kettle soured a porter before and it came out well. Maybe a bit of smoked malt. Just a touch. I need to research if anyone has done smoke and sour. I read about some breweries who tried the WD recipe. There was discussion weather he meant bran, hops or maybe brown hops (old)

Edit: the recipe doesn't mention malt at all so calling it a porter is kind of a stretch. That said an old English Porter might be fun but sounds like George should stick to making Rye
 
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I put my Best IPA in the keg, and now it is hooked to CO2. This dry hopped brew produced the largest amount of trub of any beer I have brewed. Looking forward to brewing this again, but next time I will use fresher grains and yeast, and bag the hops instead of letting them swim free. The sample looked, smelled and tasted good after attenuating a whopping 87%, yielding a 7.2% abv beer.
 
I recently acquired a ton of new gear and brewed up my first batch on the new system last night. This is my third iteration of a WCIPA that I am trying to dial in.

Brew day went slow, particularly cooling the wort down with my immersion chiller, but I hit my target OG almost dead on and the wort tasted fantastic.

I finally have a fermentation chamber as well, and it seems like everything is working there with the inkbird, but I haven’t had any action in the blow off yet. I have a 7.5 gallon stainless steel Anvil fermenter with a ball lock outfitted into the lid, so I can basically do closed transfers now.

I will be kegging this beer for the first time once it finishes and am very excited for that.
 
I recently acquired a ton of new gear and brewed up my first batch on the new system last night. This is my third iteration of a WCIPA that I am trying to dial in.

Brew day went slow, particularly cooling the wort down with my immersion chiller, but I hit my target OG almost dead on and the wort tasted fantastic.

I finally have a fermentation chamber as well, and it seems like everything is working there with the inkbird, but I haven’t had any action in the blow off yet. I have a 7.5 gallon stainless steel Anvil fermenter with a ball lock outfitted into the lid, so I can basically do closed transfers now.

I will be kegging this beer for the first time once it finishes and am very excited for that.
With a 7.5 probably don't need a blow off tube especially with temperature control. Are you using pressure during the fermentation? That will control krausen as well. I haven't used a blow off tube in years
 
With a 7.5 probably don't need a blow off tube especially with temperature control. Are you using pressure during the fermentation? That will control krausen as well. I haven't used a blow off tube in years

No, my understanding is that the Anvil fermenter I have is not pressure rated. It’s the stainless steel bucket.

So are you saying that I don’t need to attach anything to the ball lock or do I still need a way for CO2 to escape? I’ve never used a fermenter w a ball lock before.
 
No, my understanding is that the Anvil fermenter I have is not pressure rated. It’s the stainless steel bucket.

So are you saying that I don’t need to attach anything to the ball lock or do I still need a way for CO2 to escape? I’ve never used a fermenter w a ball lock before.
No you need to let C02 escape. I've not used that particular fermenter. With my fermenter I use a spunding valve. You can also take off the ball locks connector and just use your stopper and airlock
 

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