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I'm considering making yeast starters from the same wort that I'll pitch the yeast into.
My typical pattern is to build a yeast starter the night before and pitch the whole thing. I read that can affect the beer flavor a bit since I'm pitching about 5% of my total volume with a different beer. Not to mention the starter is highly oxidized. So yesterday, I put the starter in the fridge and decanted it before pitching this morning.
I brewed yesterday so I pitched my yeast about 18 hours after putting the wort into my fermenter. This actually gave me time to cold crash my wort and drop hop matter, etc out of my unitank before oxygenating the wort and pitching my yeast. I like the idea of dropping hop matter before pitching the yeast, and might make this my standard practice. The amount of time I waited while my yeast starter cooled so I could decant is about the amount of time I usually let my starters build. Which made me wonder if I could just build a starter from the same wort that I put in my fermenter, and then pitch the whole thing the next morning.
There are a lot of variables here, so I was curious what people thought about this approach. Mainly, these are the things I'm thinking about
1. Making a starter from the same wort reduces my concern of adding what is essentially a different beer to my wort. However, yeast starters should be between 1.030 and 1.040 so depending on my OG, I'd have to adjust it (most likely by adding a specific amount of water). Would this make it a different enough beer to make a difference? It seems like it would be ok.
2. I use a stir plate so my starter would still be heavily oxidized. Any idea how much that might affect my final beer? I know Brulosophy has done a Decanted vs Full starter exbeeriment that didn't really show a significant difference. It doesn't seem ideal to pitch a highly oxidized starter, but it also doesn't seem too detrimental.
3. Is waiting 18 hours before pitching yeast a bad thing? Assuming I sanitize properly, it shouldn't matter, right?
4. It's a little overkill to cold crash my wort and drop the hop matter, but that's essentially the method used for lagers in the book Brewing Classic Styles. I might just do this for all of my beers to help clear them up.
My typical pattern is to build a yeast starter the night before and pitch the whole thing. I read that can affect the beer flavor a bit since I'm pitching about 5% of my total volume with a different beer. Not to mention the starter is highly oxidized. So yesterday, I put the starter in the fridge and decanted it before pitching this morning.
I brewed yesterday so I pitched my yeast about 18 hours after putting the wort into my fermenter. This actually gave me time to cold crash my wort and drop hop matter, etc out of my unitank before oxygenating the wort and pitching my yeast. I like the idea of dropping hop matter before pitching the yeast, and might make this my standard practice. The amount of time I waited while my yeast starter cooled so I could decant is about the amount of time I usually let my starters build. Which made me wonder if I could just build a starter from the same wort that I put in my fermenter, and then pitch the whole thing the next morning.
There are a lot of variables here, so I was curious what people thought about this approach. Mainly, these are the things I'm thinking about
1. Making a starter from the same wort reduces my concern of adding what is essentially a different beer to my wort. However, yeast starters should be between 1.030 and 1.040 so depending on my OG, I'd have to adjust it (most likely by adding a specific amount of water). Would this make it a different enough beer to make a difference? It seems like it would be ok.
2. I use a stir plate so my starter would still be heavily oxidized. Any idea how much that might affect my final beer? I know Brulosophy has done a Decanted vs Full starter exbeeriment that didn't really show a significant difference. It doesn't seem ideal to pitch a highly oxidized starter, but it also doesn't seem too detrimental.
3. Is waiting 18 hours before pitching yeast a bad thing? Assuming I sanitize properly, it shouldn't matter, right?
4. It's a little overkill to cold crash my wort and drop the hop matter, but that's essentially the method used for lagers in the book Brewing Classic Styles. I might just do this for all of my beers to help clear them up.