Hi guys!
New to home brewing, I recently started playing around with the recipe creator here on the site and I really enjoy the tool, and seeing how I can affect the parameters of the beer. I have made a couple of "kit" recipes, and felt it was the time to "play around" a bit, and so I created a straightforward lager recipe:
https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/751671/modern-lager
So: I wanted to have 10 L going into the fermenter. As I did a BIAB, and from a previous run (and internet wisdom) realized I would loose appr. 2 L of water in the grains, I heated 12 L for my mash.
According to the recipe, I was expecting an OG of 1.049. With 9.5 L in my kettle after mashing, I was at 1.066.
Adding more water, I was at 1.054 at 12 L. Final post-boil OG was 1.052 at 12.3 L (approximately). So I came fairly close, no big deal. But I ended up with 2.3 L "excess" wort, as I had to dilute the wort.
My questions:
1. How should I use "batch size" in the recipe calculator when doing a BIAB? I understand that the grains absorb water, but do they not also absorb the sugar dissolved in the water? (in other words, should the BIAB step be considered a "concentration effect" or a "bulk loss effect"?
In my case, I realise I had too much grain/too little water for my mash, but I can't really get my head around the water volume I should enter as the "batch size" when doing a BIAB. For my recipe to add up, giving the OG I actually got this corresponds more to a batch size of 9.5 L (which is what I got after taking out the grain bag), but to me it sounds strange if I were to always add a certain amount of water/kg grain, as the IBU calculations then would be performed on a volume that is not there when the hops are actually added. Do I make sense?
2. The point of the "estimated boil size" to me is unclear: During the boil, one can concentrate or dilute as one wants to reach the volume to which the hops amounts have been adjusted to.
Please check out the shared recipe (link above) and give me your thoughts on this!
Best regards, and all the best for 2019!
/Karl
New to home brewing, I recently started playing around with the recipe creator here on the site and I really enjoy the tool, and seeing how I can affect the parameters of the beer. I have made a couple of "kit" recipes, and felt it was the time to "play around" a bit, and so I created a straightforward lager recipe:
https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/751671/modern-lager
So: I wanted to have 10 L going into the fermenter. As I did a BIAB, and from a previous run (and internet wisdom) realized I would loose appr. 2 L of water in the grains, I heated 12 L for my mash.
According to the recipe, I was expecting an OG of 1.049. With 9.5 L in my kettle after mashing, I was at 1.066.
Adding more water, I was at 1.054 at 12 L. Final post-boil OG was 1.052 at 12.3 L (approximately). So I came fairly close, no big deal. But I ended up with 2.3 L "excess" wort, as I had to dilute the wort.
My questions:
1. How should I use "batch size" in the recipe calculator when doing a BIAB? I understand that the grains absorb water, but do they not also absorb the sugar dissolved in the water? (in other words, should the BIAB step be considered a "concentration effect" or a "bulk loss effect"?
In my case, I realise I had too much grain/too little water for my mash, but I can't really get my head around the water volume I should enter as the "batch size" when doing a BIAB. For my recipe to add up, giving the OG I actually got this corresponds more to a batch size of 9.5 L (which is what I got after taking out the grain bag), but to me it sounds strange if I were to always add a certain amount of water/kg grain, as the IBU calculations then would be performed on a volume that is not there when the hops are actually added. Do I make sense?
2. The point of the "estimated boil size" to me is unclear: During the boil, one can concentrate or dilute as one wants to reach the volume to which the hops amounts have been adjusted to.
Please check out the shared recipe (link above) and give me your thoughts on this!
Best regards, and all the best for 2019!
/Karl