Hi, I am new to the Forum but have been brewing for many years (so not so young as some who have introduced themselves!). I am looking forward to taking my all grain brewing to the next level, by incorporating some advice from the forum. I am a little confused by the current interest in "black" IPA. Doesn't IPA stand for India PALE Ale. Surely these blck beers are not Pale by any stretch of the imagination! So I am interested to hear some opinions on this issue. In my book, the black beers are Stouts and Porters (regardless of the hop content).