Long time away....Amber Rye Ale

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  1. Texas Ale Works

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    The more I think about it, the more it feels too complicated, too many malts.....
     
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    Looks great to me. My advice based on experience: Add 1 lb rice hulls or the mash will get stuck (unless you're BIAB in which case it doesn't much matter). And ditch the lactic acid, no need.
     
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    Naaah.
    Just dump them all in and mash 'em. No more complicated than a single malt.

    And +1 on the rice hulls...
     
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    I do BIAB.....
     
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    I agree looks good! The rye character should really come through. I do a hoppy red rye with only about 20% rye and it’s the sweet spot for me.
     
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    Good to see you back!
    Ya, either Lactic, or acidulated malt, not both.
    I use acid malt, I otherwise forget to add it...
     
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    wait there is Acid Malt in there...not 'posed to be......let me fix it

    did not see the malt on my end.
    I use the acid to manage PH, always have...ehh
     
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    ...what are your thoughts on moving to a Kolsch or Cal Common yeast, to "crisp" up the profile?
     
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    2565 or 1007 would turn out really nice. The problem with both of these yeasts is that they take 5-6 weeks to clear. I'm patient but not always THAT patient. And their dried "equivalents" really aren't as good -- I've tried them and they turn out more tart and take even longer to clear.

    I've had great success using S-189 lager yeast at room temperature, LOVE the results. Same with S-04, it's way cleaner than you might think, I dare say it's about as clean as a "lager" yeast. If you don't want to go with US-05 but want to try something else dried, these give me great results every time. A lot of folks swear by W-34/70 lager warm too -- I haven't tried that one warm yet but it's in my short list of future batches.
     
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    #11 Texas Ale Works, Jul 27, 2021
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    I hear ya on the drop time on those yeast, and due to the fact that I am starting late in the season, kinda want to turn and burn on this one...

    maybe Notty cold...mid/upper 50s?

    Omega Lutra....

    Ok, so here is a crazy idea, lets ferment with a Kveik, chill to mid 90s pitch and put in the ferm fridge with no temp control, and drink this sucker in a week? ( I might need to start a thread about using this as I never have before)

    also going to drop Clarity Ferm in, because I got a friend that cant du gluten, and he never has an issue with my beer when I do
     
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    I misread the earlier post suggesting to ditch the lactic acid, sorry to confuse you on that.
    I personally use acidulated malt to manage pH, always have... huh
     
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    I mash at a higher pH than many, about 5.6. No ill effects, try it. I add a glug of vinegar if needed. In amber or dark brews, it would typically not be needed.
     
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    Really? I have never heard or seen anyone use vinegar. Lactic or phosphoric to avoid unwanted flavor additions, but not vinegar. I'm making a beer, not a salad.
     
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    I came up with the idea. I can promise you, the finished beer doesn't taste like vinegar. I mean, I'm using like 1 ounce out of 5 gallons or whatever, almost 1000 ounces, so who cares. Steer away from balsamic reductions, of course. But an ounce of white vinegar or cider vinegar is not detectable.
     
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    Don't want to take this too far off topic but could you expand on 189 at warmer temps? What temp? How many packets?

    I finally got around to doing 34/70 warm (65F) and the results were as hoped.
     
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    About 67 F the entire time, pitched at standard ALE amounts, so 1 pack per 5 gallons. Zero diacetyl (for a change!), zero esters, just a beautiful "lager". If it smells like a lager and tastes like a lager, it's a lager -- right?!

    Cheers on the W-34/70 experience. I want to give that one a try soon. And Diamond lager as well.
     
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    At 96% I'm adding 1ml tops of phosphoric acid
    I've herd good things about Lutra there @Texas Ale Works I look forward to hearing what you think about it.
     
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    Ewww! We go to great lengths to keep acetobacter out of our beers and someone wants to add their excrement to a beer? ONLY if trying to cheat on a Lambic and even then.... No. Just no.
     
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    Could do a lot worse. Enjoy your cat piss.
     

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