Hop Utilization Adjustment at High Altitudes

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  1. dulrich3d

    dulrich3d New Member

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    Hello,

    Is there a way to adjust for hop utilization at elevation, say Denver at 5,280? I know you can adjust for FWH and whirlpool. It would be nice if there was a way to set it for my profile.

    Thoughts?
     
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    I'm at about 4,000ft. elev. and set my hop utilization to 90% rather than the default 100%. Nothing scientific about this, just that I feel the bitterness of my beers more closely match similar commercial beers with this adjustment.
     
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    Where do you do that in the program?
     
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    I know I can change it for whirlpool and FWH but the option goes away when you select boil, would be cool if we had the option there too
     
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    Sorry! Forgot I was responding to a post on BF. I use Beersmith and it's in the equipment profile. Not sure about BF. I looked through the profiles and couldn't find a place to do it in BF. I suppose you could adjust the AA% down in the hops as you add them to your invertory.
     
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    Based on what you are doing in beersmith, what percent reduction would you use? Thanks for your input. Hopefully, the developers are looking at this too :)
     
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    I found this on another forum posted by IowaStateFan

    "Okay here is the formula that I use to adjust the hops utilization for altitude. I found it here: http://www.realbeer.com/hops/FAQ.html

    Divide the utilization by ((altitude in feet/550)*.02)+1) so at 5000' you would divide your utilization by 1.18 which is a reduces your utilization by approx 15%.

    For me at 9100' I get 25% less utilization."
     
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    I use 90% instead of 100%, so you'd just reduce by 10%. Works well for me.
     
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    Looks like my WAG is almost spot on then. Ya gotta get lucky once in awhile :)
     
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    I'm in Aurora at 6,000. Just go for the high end of the range for the style and you'll be fine.
     
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    This is something I've never heard of or even considered? I'm a little over 5,000 here and the only adjustment I ever compensate for is keg carbing.
     
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    I’ll let you in on a little secret, thunderwagn. Homebrewers love to fuss over everything! :D
     
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    You should look at some of the purists post on home brew talk, say one word wrong and they pounce all over you with exact facts
     
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    Hey, I resemble that remark!
     
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    That's why I'm here, not there.
     
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    Water boils at about 200 degrees. Theoretically we should see a decrease in utilization. But they brew in Leadville at 10,200 feet so I don't worry about it here, I just use experience and it tells me to use the high end of the scale.
     
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    Lower carbonation, too.
     
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    I get a little sick of the LODO purists there. If I don't drink my home brew fast enough to circumvent the negative effects of O2, I'm probably ailing .
     
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    People have been homebrewing perfectly good beer for decades before LODO. As I said earlier today, some people gotta shake things up!!
     
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    They're a big part of how I thought it was super complicated to get started. I look there occasionally but mostly to try and calm people down.
     
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