Bock Beer...winter is here!

[Bigbre04]

Hey all,

This is my first pass at a Bock. Shooting for middle of the expected range. Still using up my Columbus Cryo, but the loral and the perle seem appropriate. I have fuggles and some other decent hops on hand that i could sub in.

https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/embed/1599104

I used as much munich1/2 as i could get away with. I could sub in some vienna if needed. i have C15/40/120 and extra special malt that could also slide into this recipe. I had some Roasted barley, then some Black malt in there, but i think that the midnight/chocolate mix is more subtle and keeps it from being too roasty flavor wise. I might sub in a small amount of c40?

I will likely run this with Apex Munich as cold as i can get it(52f if i can get it down there). probably wont pressure ferment it.

 

[Dave Y]

Almost 7% at 24 IBU. I can dig it.

 

[Craigerrr]

Interesting!
I've never brewed, or even had a beer like this to my recollection.
I might steel this recipe!

 

[Donoroto]

Hmmm, I think I’ve heard that before. “I’ll be bock”.

 

[Dave Y]

 

[Bigbre04]

winter is here is very very relative in coastal south ga. its gonna be 80 today.

 

[Dave Y]

Yeah... #MeToo over in TX.

Really I was just trolling all the folks living in climates not meant for human habitation.

 

[Bigbre04]

Yeah... #MeToo over in TX.

Really I was just trolling all the folks living in climates not meant for human habitation.

lets be honest. South Ga back in the day was like speed running malaria....i still feel that way when i play disc golf in the woods/swamps. the bugs down here are next fucking level.

 

[Bigbre04]

anybody got suggestions on the grain bill? i dont have enough munich go straight munich, but i felt that a combo of munich1/2, victory, and 2row would be sufficent.

this is slotting into my "amber" line so i erred towards the amber side of the style. i could drop the midnight wheat and leave it at around 14 srm.

i felt that the raison notes from the spec x would be nice in a heavy malt forward beer, but i could easily drop the spec x in and leave the midnight wheat to make up the color. this would be a more "clean" maltiness.

I also have extra special malt that could be subbed for both the chocolate and the spec x. it would have a touch of malty roastiness?

I have not had a traditional bock in a very long time. maybe i will grab some on my way home and sample them.

 

[Sandy Feet]

lets be honest. South Ga back in the day was like speed running malaria....i still feel that way when i play disc golf in the woods/swamps. the bugs down here are next fucking level.

And then, Florida is the next level up LOL.

 

[Dave Y]

lets be honest. South Ga back in the day was like speed running malaria....i still feel that way when i play disc golf in the woods/swamps. the bugs down here are next fucking level.

IKR I'm in a drought that's been less than .5" rain in 90 days. Inquiring minds want to know where the mosquitoes are coming from!

anybody got suggestions on the grain bill? i dont have enough munich go straight munich, but i felt that a combo of munich1/2, victory, and 2row would be sufficent.

I also have extra special malt that could be subbed for both the chocolate and the spec x. it would have a touch of malty roastiness?

I think if I were to do anything it would be to whack all but a token amount of midnight wheat and make it up the the spec-x & victory. I like the percentages on the peasant 2 row, MUC 1&2.

Just depends on what you're shooting for, and if you want a little more roastiness, keep that chocolate in there.
Looks good to me

 

[Bigbre04]

IKR I'm in a drought that's been less than .5" rain in 90 days. Inquiring minds want to know where the mosquitoes are coming from!



I think if I were to do anything it would be to whack all but a token amount of midnight wheat and make it up the the spec-x & victory. I like the percentages on the peasant 2 row, MUC 1&2.

Just depends on what you're shooting for, and if you want a little more roastiness, keep that chocolate in there.
Looks good to me

lol thats half of the challenge, i dont really know what i am shooting for. color wise its a fairly large range. some are a heavy golden/orange and some are amber/brown. i guess i am sort of shooting for the the amber/brown range.

im also showing significant restraint to not add smoked malt in there lol!

 

[Dave Y]

I say DO IT, and let the smoke haters fume!

( I run a token amount of smoked malt in my alt )

 

[Donoroto]

anybody got suggestions on the grain bill? i dont have enough munich go straight munich, but i felt that a combo of munich1/2, victory, and 2row would be sufficent.

this is slotting into my "amber" line so i erred towards the amber side of the style. i could drop the midnight wheat and leave it at around 14 srm.

i felt that the raison notes from the spec x would be nice in a heavy malt forward beer, but i could easily drop the spec x in and leave the midnight wheat to make up the color. this would be a more "clean" maltiness.

I also have extra special malt that could be subbed for both the chocolate and the spec x. it would have a touch of malty roastiness?

I have not had a traditional bock in a very long time. maybe i will grab some on my way home and sample them.

I would keep the spec x and midnight wheat, imho 14 is too light for a bock (but I have seen lighter). Also mash a tad high to keep the maltiness, nobody likes a dry bock. The base malts won’t matter much, so what you got is fine.

 

[Sandy Feet]

What? No Pilsner? Sorry, I had to do it

 

[Brew Cat]

Hmmm, I think I’ve heard that before. “I’ll be bock”.

I'll be bock is the name of one of my Bocks but it's not copyright

 

[Bigbre04]

I actually went to my local liquor store and purchased a few examples.

apparently rogue dead guy is a maibock???? way overhopped IMO. also got a german Doppelbock. Didnt buy any Shinerbock, but i thought about it.

Overall, i had several options for doppelbocks, but very few regular bocks. several Maibocks though.

overall i think that the more traditional is my preference.

 

[Brew Cat]

Hey all,

This is my first pass at a Bock. Shooting for middle of the expected range. Still using up my Columbus Cryo, but the loral and the perle seem appropriate. I have fuggles and some other decent hops on hand that i could sub in.

https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/embed/1599104

I used as much munich1/2 as i could get away with. I could sub in some vienna if needed. i have C15/40/120 and extra special malt that could also slide into this recipe. I had some Roasted barley, then some Black malt in there, but i think that the midnight/chocolate mix is more subtle and keeps it from being too roasty flavor wise. I might sub in a small amount of c40?

I will likely run this with Apex Munich as cold as i can get it(52f if i can get it down there). probably wont pressure ferment it.

As much Munich as you can afford
No Pilsner except in a Helles Bock
The victory is key, it improved my Bock IMO
I use about 8%

 

[Bigbre04]

As much Munich as you can afford
No Pilsner except in a Helles Bock
The victory is key, it improved my Bock IMO
I use about 8%

interesting. i thought the recommended usage was up to 5%?

and ya very tight on munich right now. I am getting towards the end of my grain on hand. I have about 6 batches of base malt left and only about 40lbs of each type on hand. Gotta keep some munich on hand for other batches! I am brewing a chocolate raspberry stout today and then tomorrow im doing my session IPA. Next week i am brewing this bock and probably a straight Kolsch. Filling up my cooler!

 

[Brew Cat]

interesting. i thought the recommended usage was up to 5%?

and ya very tight on munich right now. I am getting towards the end of my grain on hand. I have about 6 batches of base malt left and only about 40lbs of each type on hand. Gotta keep some munich on hand for other batches! I am brewing a chocolate raspberry stout today and then tomorrow im doing my session IPA. Next week i am brewing this bock and probably a straight Kolsch. Filling up my cooler!

Actually looked at my recipe and it's 7.5% go at least 5% victory
Couple years ago my friend said he wanted a malt bomb so upped it. We all liked it
Do you do small test batches or just go for it?