Adventures In Making Sour Beer

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    The video i promised to make, there is all the moldy goodness!
     
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    Top stuff Joshua! Sorta develops a SCOBY on top of the brew eh? I used to make kombutcha and you ended up with a gelatinous sponge on top of the tea which increased in size as the tea fermented looks similar to what you were skimming off the top of that brew.
     
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    Thanks buddy! I have a doctorate in video trolling that i earned a few years ago while battling it out in the trenches of the YouTube world! lol

    Yep it must be buddy. Nasty stuff! lol Like i said, i couldn't get myself to taste the wort, but the beer when i racked it, it wasn't bad.... but i don't think it was sour enough to be a hit, maybe it will get better while it has oak in it? Guess, i could always add some tart fruit and let it sit some more?
     
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    Wonder if anyone has ever blended a sour.... with some mead?
     
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    Your post reminded me of that scene in half baked with Dave Chapelle and Jon stewart. you ever see the back of a $20 bill...on mead?
     
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    LOL..... right on!

    In all reality tho, i think i want to try it! .... a super sour & tart brew and blend it with a jalapeno mead.
     
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    Just bottled up my sour beer! I keep forgetting i used a Saison yeast SmackPak, that's what's sparking it up and most pronounced, it's quite good. Just had a small sip but it's pretty good. Couldn't taste the oak, but it was just a small sip....

    The end of my bottle filler fell off in the 3rd bottle, so i threw that bottle in the fridge, and i will recover it tonight sometime when i get off work.

    My next sour will be an IPA, or a brown ale that i oak up again. I will probably let it sour for at least a week, and i will probably go with crushed barley this time as the souring ingredient.
     
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    Yeah it's not even close to being sour enough for me, the Saison yeast is overpowering everything else.....

    .... it ain't a bad Golden Saison brew tho!..... but it needed way more oak tossed in, or time sitting on it?
     
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    Maybe use a cleaner fermenting yeast so as not to get in the road of the sour and oaks?
     
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    I'd agree with you on this one. At least until you become more familiar with the whole souring process.

    I think you said you let it go for a day and a half or so Joshua? Try 3 days, seems to give a good enough sour for my tastes at least. You could also try dosing it with some lactic acid if it's still not enough for ya
     
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    #11 Joshua Peterson, Jan 4, 2017
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    I had a Colorado sour brew, that was a golden ale fermented with Saison yeast..... their's was excellent.... mine not so much buddy!

    I had a pack of CryHavoc at the time, i should have used that and saved the Saison for a different beer!

    Yep you are right, I think it ended up souring for 36 hour till i was able to boil it. I'll try to let it sit for at least 3 days next time and see how it turns out. Right now it's just slight, barely taste a bit of the souring process right after the yeast starts to mellow out.

    It's not a bad run of the mill saison brew, it's just not an outstanding beer on any scale. My friends probably won't know what to think of it LOL
     
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    You live and learn Joshua I'm sure your friends won't mind free beer:p.
     
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    Also, I think saison yeasts need a little longer than some strains to mellow and come together. So who knowshould how it'll be in a month or 2
     
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    Well that's good to hear guys, thank you!

    I plan on trying out my waxing ability and doing labeling job on them... so maybe i'll just hold on to them for a couple months and cross my fingers that they settle down. I only have one other good friend who's probably ever had a saison brew before, so who knows.

    I feel like i should do the same brew again, but just souring it longer... and adding some lactic acid like you said buddy, and see if it turns out better?
     
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    Always worth a try in my book. Gives you something to do while waiting for the first batch
     
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    I'm thinking no good getting advice on a brew someone has no idea about Joshua. Eg most mainstream beers aren't going to be as spicey and phenolic as a Belgium brew let alone a Belgium sour brew heck even is you poured me a pint of your soured saison I'm not sure what I'd expect let alone gauge it upon for a supposed par beer:).

    One thing I did find from drinking them Belgium Trappist beers awhile back is that 1 is not enough you need a few to get your pallet going and to start appreciating the flavours . There is a lot going on in a Trappist beer I'm sure a saison isn't too far from this yeast strain.
     
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    Alright sweet guys, thank you!

    Yeah i'm going to give it another swing next month and see if can get a better Golden Ale to sour up
     
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    I'm having one now, you are right buddy!.... The saison taste has been been cut back to about 50% as strong as it was at the beginning. Still needs more souring and oaking, but it is really pretty good!
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    #19 Trialben, Jan 15, 2017
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    Mmmm yum that looks like a lovely beer there Joshua nice head and it looks like and orange colour in the photo . Love ya work mate :p

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