Fermzilla All Rounder updated

[BarbarianBrewer]

This video shows the updated Fermzilla All Rounder. It really addresses all of shortcomings I see in my All Rounder. I don't need another one, but I'll probably still get this one when it's available here!

Edit: I just found it on William's Brewing for $100.

 

[Craigerrr]

I like everything about the upgrades, except that I tilt mine when transferring to keg. I wonder if I can still do that with the hex base

 

[Josh Hughes]

My only real problem is getting the sealed part of the lid off. I also tilt mine to get every drop out. But the hex may be nice since sometimes i need it to be stable when I’m moving it. I know they make straps for that but still. Also there is a date stamped on those, probably marketing but only guaranteed to hold pressure for a period of time.

 

[BarbarianBrewer]

My only real problem is getting the sealed part of the lid off. I also tilt mine to get every drop out. But the hex may be nice since sometimes i need it to be stable when I’m moving it. I know they make straps for that but still. Also there is a date stamped on those, probably marketing but only guaranteed to hold pressure for a period of time.

The video shows how to use the handle to pry the lid off the fermenter. I also loosen the straps and tilt the All Rounder when transferring out of it. I'll just have to use shims like I do with my Speidel. The only remaining thing I would like to see would be a volume added during manufacturing instead of manually applying an adhesive strip and hoping you get it applied straight and vertical.

I think the date on the fermenter is more a best practice or legal requirement that applies to all pressurized vessels. Much like having to have a CO2 tank recertified every 5 years.

 

[Josh Hughes]

Yeah mine “expired” a few years ago.

 

[Donoroto]

Has anyone tried a coating of vaseline on the lid threads? I use that trick with mason jars, lids open right up.

 

[Josh Hughes]

No, but I bet keg lube would be good. I feel like an absolute idiot that I do not think about that.

 

[Brew Cat]

I don't know I put a bit of keg lube and don't have to tork it to tight

 

[Craigerrr]

After tightening the lid I back the ring off just a smidgen, never have an issue removing the ring that way. To remove the lid itself if it is "stuck", I back the ring off about one turn and hit it with Co2 until it pops.

 

[Brew Cat]

After tightening the lid I back the ring off just a smidgen, never have an issue removing the ring that way. To remove the lid itself if it is "stuck", I back the ring off about one turn and hit it with Co2 until it pops.

good advice also On a fermenter or keg with a tri valve set up don't take the clamp completely off when under pressure
easy way to loose an eye

 

[Craigerrr]

good advice also On a fermenter or keg with a tri valve set up don't take the clamp completely off when under pressure
easy way to loose an eye

Or potentially much, much worse...

 

[Craigerrr]

Just a little out of date, but essentially I pressure test it everytime I brew, right!

 

[Donoroto]

They need to address legal liability. Testing it is easy: fill it with water, then pressurize to some value (like 30 psi, twice what you might ferment at).

Why filled with water? Craig, you’re a hydraulics guy, you can explain.

 

[Brew Cat]

Just a little out of date, but essentially I pressure test it everytime I brew, right!
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strange
mine is out of date from 2023 also
I can't remember when I purchased it but not much before that
covering their butt for sure
I never go above 15 psi

 

[Craigerrr]

They need to address legal liability. Testing it is easy: fill it with water, then pressurize to some value (like 30 psi, twice what you might ferment at).

Why filled with water? Craig, you’re a hydraulics guy, you can explain.

essentially liquid is virtually non compressible, the less gas in the vessel when pressure testing the less danger should there be a failure.
I'm not sure what the compression ratio would be for Co2 at 30PSI, but this is essentially how bombs work, stored energy.
For instance 30PSI of air in a vessel contains far more potential energy than water at the same pressure.
Tried not to get too technical @Donoroto

 

[Donoroto]

essentially liquid is virtually non compressible, the less gas in the vessel when pressure testing the less danger should there be a failure.
I'm not sure what the compression ratio would be for Co2 at 30PSI, but this is essentially how bombs work, stored energy.
For instance 30PSI of air in a vessel contains far more potential energy than water at the same pressure.
Tried not to get too technical @Donoroto

Bingo. When the vessel bursts, the compressed water doesn't expand, so you get wet. With a gas, it keeps expanding, as in boom.