Jump from homebrew to a brewery

i'm more mechanic and plumber than brewer, i can build all brewery by my self as i did already and i'm keep costructing,
the budget is to low, the monthly expences is low, mistakes will be made for sure, im ready to learn i'm sure i will
after all the pros say that turning from home to comercial brewing need to forget everything you know and start over, this is what i'm planing to do
i have stop brewing home months now (acualy because not having time but anyway)
I have already visited a very big brewery, i will buy the grains from there, i meet them , they willing to help me if i need
 
Mastoras007 said:
i'm more mechanic and plumber than brewer, i can build all brewery by my self as i did already and i'm keep costructing,
the budget is to low, the monthly expences is low, mistakes will be made for sure, im ready to learn i'm sure i will
after all the pros say that turning from home to comercial brewing need to forget everything you know and start over, this is what i'm planing to do
i have stop brewing home months now (acualy because not having time but anyway)
I have already visited a very big brewery, i will buy the grains from there, i meet them , they willing to help me if i need
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they will be your best resource. they may also be willing to give you extra yeast if you bring a container(and they have it available.).

how big are they?
 
Bigbre04 said:
they will be your best resource. they may also be willing to give you extra yeast if you bring a container(and they have it available.).

how big are they?
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very big, selling all the country , makin also beer for supermarkets, they have malt factory and brewery ofcourse, selling malts to breweris and hops, not yeast, atleast not yet
 
Mastoras007 said:
very big, selling all the country , makin also beer for supermarkets, they have malt factory and brewery ofcourse, selling malts to breweris and hops, not yeast, atleast not yet
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Interesting.

surprised that they make their own malt honestly. that is pretty next level as far as size goes.

i wonder if it is because they couldnt get it or they saw a market for it locally.

dry yeast should not be terribly hard to get, nor expensive. just store it in the fridge.
 
Bigbre04 said:
Interesting.

surprised that they make their own malt honestly. that is pretty next level as far as size goes.

i wonder if it is because they couldnt get it or they saw a market for it locally.

dry yeast should not be terribly hard to get, nor expensive. just store it in the fridge.
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What's your opinion for NOT use a hot liquor tank, use hot water on demand?
I have not plan this, for start at least, later sure i will add
I'm planning to use hot water on demand using a gas boiler
 
Mastoras007 said:
What's your opinion for NOT use a hot liquor tank, use hot water on demand?
I have not plan this, for start at least, later sure i will add
I'm planning to use hot water on demand using a gas boiler
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Do you have your water analysis?
 
Brew Cat said:
Do you have your water analysis?
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Not yet, this is the analysis from the government for local water distribution



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Appearance & Organoleptic Parameters

Color: Not detected – Acceptable to consumers, no unusual change (19/05/2023)

Turbidity: 0.33 NTU – Acceptable to consumers, no unusual change (19/05/2023)

Taste: Acceptable + No unusual change (09/12/2022)

Odor: Acceptable + No unusual change (09/12/2022)


General Parameters

pH: 7.6 (Limit: ≥6.5 and ≤9.5) (19/05/2023)

Conductivity: 476 μS/cm at 20°C (Limit: 2500 μS/cm at 20°C) (19/05/2023)

Residual Chlorine: 0.21 mg/L (19/05/2023)

Coliforms: Not detected – 0 cfu/100mL (19/05/2023)

Colony count at 22°C: 16 cfu/mL – No unusual change (19/05/2023)

Aluminum: Not detected (Limit: 200 μg/L) (18/08/2021)

Iron: Not detected (Limit: 200 μg/L) (19/05/2023)

Ammonium: 0.04 mg/L (Limit: 0.5 mg/L) (18/08/2021)


Chlorides: 11 mg/L (Limit: 250
 
Not having all the needed parameters.
I will send to analysis a sample, but here is another question
I will send the water before filtering?
After filtering?
Both?
 
Mastoras007 said:
Not having all the needed parameters.
I will send to analysis a sample, but here is another question
I will send the water before filtering?
After filtering?
Both?
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Of course after filtering since that's what your using to brew but both might be nice to actually compare
 
Mastoras007 said:
What's your opinion for NOT use a hot liquor tank, use hot water on demand?
I have not plan this, for start at least, later sure i will add
I'm planning to use hot water on demand using a gas boiler
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the disadvantage for on demand is that to get good flow rate you have to have a massive on demand industrial heater. vs a HLT can be heated with elements and or gas. but it takes up space. overall, i would prefer an HLT, but it takes floor space, daily planning, and some maintence.

you should look at getting a brewery specific water analysis done with your process water.

i dont have filtration, but a trap/charcoal water filter setup would always be a good idea. just gotta be sure it is rated for the flow rate that you need.

you want as much water flow as you can get. if you have to wait 20 mins instead of 10 mins for something to fill up that is a big difference at the end of every day. time adds up throughout the day. anywhere you can shave time off your day would be good to address.
 
Mastoras007 said:
Residual Chlorine: 0.21 mg/L (19/05/2023)
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This may be the most important thing to deal with, you need to eliminate Chlorine or you beer will taste like shite
 
I will use 3 filters 20", one for sand, 2 is carbon
If need i will add another one carbon... No budget to get those big...
My gas burner heater is 18liter per minute
I must figure out how to raise the temperature at 80 because now can't reach more than 65 Celsius
Probably I will add a second one in the same line..
 
Mastoras007 said:
I will use 3 filters 20", one for sand, 2 is carbon
If need i will add another one carbon... No budget to get those big...
My gas burner heater is 18liter per minute
I must figure out how to raise the temperature at 80 because now can't reach more than 65 Celsius
Probably I will add a second one in the same line..
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i have an industrial one and i can hit 185f at a decent flow rate. I am not sure what my flow rate is on the hot water, but flow rate is important.
 
Mastoras007 said:
Not having all the needed parameters.
I will send to analysis a sample, but here is another question
I will send the water before filtering?
After filtering?
Both?
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Send the water you will use for brewing. If after filter, then send that.
 
Donoroto said:
Send the water you will use for brewing. If after filter, then send that.
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A point of question:

If you need filters, wouldn't it be prudent to know the water numbers before the filter AND after the filter? Once the filter passes its optimal filtration point, it's going to let more and more undesirable chemicals to the beer - obviously in small increments but it's there.

My RO setup has a meter that shows the dissolved solids coming in and being passed on.
 
Dave Y said:
A point of question:

If you need filters, wouldn't it be prudent to know the water numbers before the filter AND after the filter? Once the filter passes its optimal filtration point, it's going to let more and more undesirable chemicals to the beer - obviously in small increments but it's there.

My RO setup has a meter that shows the dissolved solids coming in and being passed on.
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Meh...commercial filters are pretty long lived. we would change our carbon once a year, the traps we would replace at the same time. We were cranking Hundreds of thousands of gallons through it a year, it was big.

We did water samples quarterly. Our municipal water in savannah is actually not too bad. Only added CaCl2 and Gyp.
 
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