Fruited Golden Ale

[Bigbre04]

Hey yall,

Its summer time so i now have to make fruit beers.

I was thinking that i would do a watermelon golden ale, serve it with a slice of lime. If i had time i would totally do it as a lager, but alas no such luck. Debating brewing it with Voss or Chico. I also have Belgian abbey yeast(single) and Kolsch yeast.

Lemme know what you think!

https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/embed/1563409

I could also just brew a kolsch... w/o fruit.
Kolsch
https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/embed/1540299

 

[Sunfire96]

If you're not using pilsner grain as the base for a kolsch, then you're making a blonde ale

Do the fruit beer. It'll sell better anyway

 

[Bigbre04]

If you're not using pilsner grain as the base for a kolsch, then you're making a blonde ale

Do the fruit beer. It'll sell better anyway

im using kolsch yeast and i assure you that you would not know the difference.

Either way, I am gonna brew the kolsch and use the watermelon in a sour ale next week. I will def revisit the watermelon golden ale this summer for sure.

 

[Brew Cat]

im using kolsch yeast and i assure you that you would not know the difference.

Either way, I am gonna brew the kolsch and use the watermelon in a sour ale next week. I will def revisit the watermelon golden ale this summer for sure.

Well I don't know I can usually taste the difference in grain in a pilsner. Maybe if you're adding lime or watermelon not. But either way if you're adding that to a kolsch it's not a kolsch anyway

 

[Bigbre04]

Well I don't know I can usually taste the difference in grain in a pilsner. Maybe if you're adding lime or watermelon not. But either way if you're adding that to a kolsch it's not a kolsch anyway

esters produced by the kolsch would cover any obvious difference plus the sweetness of the vienna.

fact is that 99% of people wouldnt be able to tell if i was using 2R or Pils. If i were to hand you my kolsch, you wouldnt know what was in it unless i told you.

IMO people get too hung up on being super traditional with things.

If you get handed my black lager and i didnt tell you that there was corn in it you would have no idea. I could call it a schwartzbier, but the vast majority of people have no idea what that means hence the dumbed down black lager name. It falls inside the BJCP guides for a schwarts. it really doesnt matter to the consumer if i use corn as long as the final product fits the expectations and tastes good.

I do a lot things that are non traditional because of my equipement/space/time constraints, generally they are well received and reviewed.

Sorry rant over.

 

[Brew Cat]

esters produced by the kolsch would cover any obvious difference plus the sweetness of the vienna.

fact is that 99% of people wouldnt be able to tell if i was using 2R or Pils. If i were to hand you my kolsch, you wouldnt know what was in it unless i told you.

IMO people get too hung up on being super traditional with things.

If you get handed my black lager and i didnt tell you that there was corn in it you have no idea. I could call it a schwartzbier, but the vast majority of people have no idea what that means hence the dumbed down black lager name. It falls inside the BJCP guides for a schwarts. it really doesnt matter to the consumer if i use corn as long as the final product fits the expectations and tastes good.

I do alot things that are non traditional because of my equipement/space/time constraints, generally they are well received and reviewed.

Sorry rant over.

It's called honest advertising
I would like to believe what's on the package
I do plenty of things that are non traditional and mark it on my blackboard. Of course I'm not selling to the public but still.
I like your first name a fruity golden ale. Not a Fruity Kolsch. That's just piggy backing on a popular beer name. Or how about a fruity golden ale brewed using Kolsch yeast. Now that would be a conversation starter. I believe we should be as brewers educating the public. Not confusing them

End of my rant for today ,

We keep having this discussion, perspective I guess

 

[Bigbre04]

It's called honest advertising
I would like to believe what's on the package
I do plenty of things that are non traditional and mark it on my blackboard. Of course I'm not selling to the public but still.
I like your first name a fruity golden ale. Not a Fruity Kolsch. That's just piggy backing on a popular beer name. Or how about a fruity golden ale brewed using Kolsch yeast. Now that would be a conversation starter. I believe we should be as brewers educating the public. Not confusing them

End of my rant for today ,

We keep having this discussion, perspective I guess

If you look at bjcp it doesnt specify the ingredients only the outcomes.

I am actually leaning back towards the watermelon golden ale. i wasnt planning on using kolsch yeast, but i could i guess. I will likely call it "check out my watermelon" or something equally stupid, making names is a pain in my butt.

I assure you that i am not lying to people if they ask me about things i gladly pull out the recipe book. I give people the specific info that they need ABV and IBUs, but i am happy to elaborate on things when asked. In my experience, too much information becomes more of a burden for all involved then too little. The VAST majority of people even some homebrewers go glassy eyed when i talk about stuff.

I honestly find that giving people IBU is almost too much info. People dont really understand that the IBU in a Juicy is not the same as a westcoast IPA.

As far as a kolsch goes, i would argue that the yeast is far more important then the grain bill because as was said above, if i use chico its a golden ale, if i use lager yeast it becomes a lager, etc.

wasnt trying to be a pain. I wish i could let you taste the beer to see that i am not crazy. My golden lager with chocolate malt is very very good. I could probably pass it as a pilsner.

 

[Brew Cat]

I'm not saying your lying but I I came to your pub I would have to keep bothering you from your work to ask for an explanation

 

[Brew Cat]

I'm sure I would get bounced

 

[Bigbre04]

I'm not saying your lying but I I came to your pub I would have to keep bothering you from your work to ask for an explanation

lol if you ask intelligent questions and listen to the answers im very cool about it. I gave tours at my previous job sometimes and i would have people correcting me during the tour(they didnt know who i was)...now that shit was fun.

 

[Brew Cat]

lol if you ask intelligent questions and listen to the answers im very cool about it. I gave tours at my previous job sometimes and i would have people correcting me during the tour(they didnt know who i was)...now that shit was fun.

Can't promise the questions would all be intelligent I love throwing a curve occasionally

 

[Sunfire96]

im using kolsch yeast and i assure you that you would not know the difference.

Either way, I am gonna brew the kolsch and use the watermelon in a sour ale next week. I will def revisit the watermelon golden ale this summer for sure.

Bold of you to assume what my palate can or cannot taste hope you don't say this stuff to your customers lol

 

[Dave Y]

if i was using 2R or Pils. If i were to hand you my kolsch, you wouldnt know what was in it unless i told you.

So... what you’re saying is, metaphorically, ‘hold my beer while, watch this’ ;-)

 

[Donoroto]

I think that if @Bigbre04 were to hand me a beer, he’d never see it again.

Just sayin.

 

[Bigbre04]

I think that if @Bigbre04 were to hand me a beer, he’d never see it again.

Just sayin.

I was just letting you borrow that!

I enjoy bantering with yall, its fun to see things from a different perspective(thats actually closer to my current situation then i would admit)

 

[Bigbre04]

Bold of you to assume what my palate can or cannot taste hope you don't say this stuff to your customers lol

lol i for sure dont, but my inside voices for sure say it. I spend a lot of time and mental stress on untappd trust me, i am very confident that 99% of customers dont know what they are talking about. "one guy said the spices in my tripel were overpowering the belgian flavors"...there are no spices in that beer....thats what belgian tripel tastes like.

 

[Brew Cat]

lol i for sure dont, but my inside voices for sure say it. I spend a lot of time and mental stress on untappd trust me, i am very confident that 99% of customers dont know what they are talking about. "one guy said the spices in my tripel were overpowering the belgian flavors"...there are no spices in that beer....thats what belgian tripel tastes like.

It's true but I still try
You know actually when I ask a novice for an opinion I don't discount it but try to read between the lines to get their meaning. That's what I do anyway

 

[Zambi]

I like reading between the lines

More serious: it's okay to disagree respectfully
It would be a boring place otherwise

 

[Brew Cat]

If we all agreed what would we argue about around a beer

 

[Bigbre04]

It's true but I still try
You know actually when I ask a novice for an opinion I don't discount it but try to read between the lines to get their meaning. That's what I do anyway

100% agreed, a lot of it is my general dislike of untappd.

it annoys me when people ask a question about the beer or the process, i answer them to the best of my ability and then they correct me or try to argue with me about my process and product. its fairly rare, but it has happened many times. I have been doing this for a long time, maybe im a little jaded.

I like reading between the lines

More serious: it's okay to disagree respectfully
It would be a boring place otherwise

i try, just tough sometimes without inflection. Same thing with texting.


On a side note, i changed up the above recipe a little and i am brewing it today! i only have 1 jug of the watermelon craft puree on hand and i know that from experience it is not very potent so i will toss it after fermentation. I might have to go get some stupid watermelon margarita mix or something if it isnt strong enough.