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Planted a buncha stuff for the girls’ winter greens. The cabbage, kale, broccoli, and sprouts all look great, but they were all seedlings. The seeds probably had less than 5% viability. Probably about 50% for the carrots and onions, but I figure the lettuce and most of the turnips froze a few weeks ago when we had our first hard freeze. They typically won’t freeze unless they’re really tender sprouts. Got a really fine crop of weeds and the few seeds that made it are good looking plants, so I’m pretty sure it isn’t the soil/compost. I didn’t add any fertilizer so that’s not the problem either. The planters have water reservoirs under the soil, so they never got dry. I think the seed suppliers must treat them with something to limit shelf life. I never have any luck with seeds purchased more than a few months before planting. Leafy greens seeds are almost like powder, so one small packet would plant our garden for a few years easily. Hard to make money if the seeds last that long.
The seeds do get treated, but to keep them viable, not to reduce their lifespan.
Lifespan of opened packs decreases dramatically.

Having said that, I had a big pack of onion seed the year before last and not a single one germinated.
Some seeds don't last. Chili pepper seed has a short lifespan. Beans on the other hand last forever.
 
no pictures to show but I just bought about 500 bulbs which are starting to arrive
now it will be a race to get them planted before the ground freezes
 
The seeds do get treated, but to keep them viable, not to reduce their lifespan.
Lifespan of opened packs decreases dramatically.

Having said that, I had a big pack of onion seed the year before last and not a single one germinated.
Some seeds don't last. Chili pepper seed has a short lifespan. Beans on the other hand last forever.
Most of what I planted came from unopened packets, a good bit of it being stuff that was going to be tossed in a dumpster by the missus' employer because it was past growing season. In fact, the stuff from the opened and older packets seems to have done better. However, we do keep the seeds in a plastic container with silica get packets to keep things dry. The missus is the store's primary for keeping all new product on display and getting the discontinued product out of the store, mostly in the dumpster. I've scored a few nice things there for pennies on the dollar, and collected quite a bit of steel from some of the displays that were decommissioned. The seeds she scored at the end of summer were all this year's inventory and priced at $4-$10 each packet. She got them for free, because there's no returning them to the supplier for storage and resale. Tell me there isn't something going on there. But, I'm a skeptical cynic, perhaps even a bit of a conspiracy theorist, but I've seen way too much in my career to be otherwise. There was at least $200 worth of seeds she brought home that otherwise were headed for the landfill. Sadly though, one usually gets what they pay for, and only about 10% of it was viable. Free things are sometimes worth exactly what they cost. I'm pretty sure it isn't the soil because it's growing some damn fine weeds and anything I put in as a seedling thrives in it. Just getting seed to germinate is the problem. Maybe too wet, dunno, it is that time of year in Alabama. Our winter isn't particularly cold temperature wise, but the coldest I've ever been was about 45F with a damp mist falling all day, and no way to get inside on the jobsite I was on. Alabama winter weather may be considered mild by most, but with the humidity that never freezes out of the air, it can be absolutely brutal. There's no getting warm once your clothes get damp from the humidity.
 
Most of what I planted came from unopened packets, a good bit of it being stuff that was going to be tossed in a dumpster by the missus' employer because it was past growing season. In fact, the stuff from the opened and older packets seems to have done better. However, we do keep the seeds in a plastic container with silica get packets to keep things dry. The missus is the store's primary for keeping all new product on display and getting the discontinued product out of the store, mostly in the dumpster. I've scored a few nice things there for pennies on the dollar, and collected quite a bit of steel from some of the displays that were decommissioned. The seeds she scored at the end of summer were all this year's inventory and priced at $4-$10 each packet. She got them for free, because there's no returning them to the supplier for storage and resale. Tell me there isn't something going on there. But, I'm a skeptical cynic, perhaps even a bit of a conspiracy theorist, but I've seen way too much in my career to be otherwise. There was at least $200 worth of seeds she brought home that otherwise were headed for the landfill. Sadly though, one usually gets what they pay for, and only about 10% of it was viable. Free things are sometimes worth exactly what they cost. I'm pretty sure it isn't the soil because it's growing some damn fine weeds and anything I put in as a seedling thrives in it. Just getting seed to germinate is the problem. Maybe too wet, dunno, it is that time of year in Alabama. Our winter isn't particularly cold temperature wise, but the coldest I've ever been was about 45F with a damp mist falling all day, and no way to get inside on the jobsite I was on. Alabama winter weather may be considered mild by most, but with the humidity that never freezes out of the air, it can be absolutely brutal. There's no getting warm once your clothes get damp from the humidity.
that's kinda like November weather here
we always hated it working in construction the mud kept getting deeper and it never got dried up. We would drive up to the site when the ground was frozen in the morning and by afternoon we would be stranded. A few times we would have to chain a few pickups together to drag some lost soul out. Then it would freeze underneath the frame and would have to go to the car wash with the hot water spray to get it out of the wheel wells. we would hope for cold weather to stick around and freeze everything for good until March where it would happen again.
 

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