NEIPA water chemistry help

[Brewer #440720]

Hi guys

I have been brewing a NEIPA kit from my local brew shop which usually turns out pretty good. it has a really fruity hop aroma but there is a slightly off bitter flavour. im just using untreated tap water and i have no idea of the profile.

I bought some RO water and treated the water with a chloride to sulphate ratio of 2:1 as this seems to be the standard for this type of beer. The resulting beer is quite different. it seems to have lost a lot of the hop aroma, and there is more of a "boozy" flavour. The gravity reading was higher than my previous attempts, so i guess it is a higher abv, but im missing the fruityness.

Any thoughts as to why ive lost the fruity hop aroma, i thought it is probably due to the chloride to sulphate ratio, but this is the recommended ratio for a NEIPA?

The profile i used was

CA 100
MG 18
NA16
CL 186
SO 93
HCO 0

 

[Minbari]

How many gallons did you make?
Are those numbers in grams?
What did you do to avoid oxydation?

 

[Brewer #440720]

How many gallons did you make?
Are those numbers in grams?
What did you do to avoid oxydation?

6 gallon batch
Water profile figures are ppm
purge and transfer with co2

 

[Minbari]

Ah ok, i was hoping it wasn't grams, lol.

Biggest issue i have had with dry hopped ipa styles has been oxygen exposure. Only take a little and in a few weeks you have a mild pale ale.

Other than that, maybe up the amount of dry hop?

 

[Brewer #440720]

the other difference is that previously i was fermenting it under pressure, this time i tried without pressure after i read not to with IPAs? ive probably changed too many variables at once making it harder to pin point whats changed the end result

 

[Yontsey]

One profile I got for a "pillowy" NEIPA profile (I believe from The Apartment Brewers YouTube) was:

Ca2 - 95
Mg2 - 3
Na - 16
Cl - 300
SO4 - 100
HCO3 - 0

He had another one that was his NEIPA profile that is:

Ca2 - 95
Mg2 - 3
Na - 34
Cl - 156
SO4 - 88
HCO3 - 16

I haven't had a chance to use either one yet but going to try on my next NEIPA when I get around to making one soon.

 

[Over The Cliff Brewing]

Did you use the same hops? We're they fresh'ish? Was the kit exactly the same? As the other posts mentioned, there are a few variables that can change your brew.

 

[Brewer #440720]

Did you use the same hops? We're they fresh'ish? Was the kit exactly the same? As the other posts mentioned, there are a few variables that can change your brew.

yeah the kit was the same as before and everything was fresh. i was thinking does the high chloride to sulphate ratio tone down the hops and bring through the boozy flavour? as i have read that high sulphate emphasises the hops?

I am doing another Neipa kit now which has a much heavier dry hop so i will see how that turns out

 

[Brewer #413384]

Hi

I have been brewing a NEIPA kit from my local brew shop which usually turns out pretty good. it has a really fruity hop aroma but there is a slightly off bitter flavour. im just using untreated tap water and i have no idea of the profile.

I bought some RO water and treated the water with a chloride to sulphate ratio of 2:1 as this seems to be the standard for this type of beer. The resulting beer is quite different. it seems to have lost a lot of the hop aroma, and there is more of a "boozy" flavour. The gravity reading was higher than my previous attempts, so i guess it is a higher abv, but im missing the fruityness.

Any thoughts as to why ive lost the fruity hop aroma, i thought it is probably due to the chloride to sulphate ratio, but this is the recommended ratio for a NEIPA?

The profile i used was

CA 100
MG 18
NA16
CL 186
SO 93
HCO 0

Chlorure élevé (186 ppm) peut adoucir l'arôme du houblon, tandis qu'un taux d'alcool plus élevé peut également atténuer les arômes fruités. Essayez d'ajuster les niveaux de sulfate pour plus de caractère houblonné.