want to brew a nice crisp ale that drinks like a lager.

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  1. Jimsal

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    title says it all. looking for your thoughts/ suggestions/recipes. ive brewed some cream ales. looking for something different. never brewed a lager. not sure I want to lager a beer for a month.
     
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    my plan right now is to find a good lager recipe and use Nottingham yeast at 57 degrees
     
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    Haven't brewed one myself, but have you looked at a kolsch? That might fit what you're looking for
     
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    yes, you will need rice hulls because it’s very sticky, the rice mimics the lager texture and cleanness
     
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    Kolsch, except for the part where it requires a bit of lagering. Maybe a nice easy blonde ale?
     
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    You can use Minute rice (generic even) also. But as ozarks stated, use rice hulls. Sticky, sticky!
     
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    You might want to look into a "lazy lager" type of beer. Basically, brew a simple Pilsner-style beer with noble hops and ferment with dry lager yeast at low ale temps - 60 degrees works extremely well. It tends to ferment very clean and quickly and usually clears well enough with kettle finings and a week or so of cold-crashing. It helps if you keg because you get to skip getting things all stirred up with the bottle fermentation.
    I've used S-23, 34/70 and I'm sure the Mangrove Jacks dry lager yeast will do just fine too. Pitch big and it'll be as clean and malty as you could ask for. ;)
     
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    Yep a kolsch sounds like a goer it ticks all the asked boxes light crisp ale that drinks like a lager try k97 fermentis out i fermented at 14c recently and finnished it at 18 ish Centigrade. Mate that Kolsch has lager written all over it!
    https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/717899/k97-kolsch

    Next run through I'm gunna swap out the Munich for vienna see which one me likes more.
     
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    The K-97 yeast is great, but it needs to settle clear before it's really lager-like. It'll get done in a couple of weeks and if it's cold-crashed and lagered for a week, it'll be quite nice. I find that after another 2-3 weeks in the keg, it really shines. :)
    It does let the malt shine though but there's a definite fruit ester to it. It's nice though, with the fruitiness being in the range of pear-like flavors. I like that one better at lower fermentation temps but plenty of brewers use it at 65 or higher.
    I'm in the midst of brewing cooler-weather beers right now but I've got plans run a big batch with that yeast as soon as I get a chance.
     
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    Notty fermented that cool should be pretty clean and lager like. Find a good pilsner or Vienna lager recipe and sub the Nottingham in and you should be good.
     
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    I find Notty to be like S-04. It's pretty fruity until it really clears out. I had an Irish Red with S-04 that really held on to the fruitiness for several weeks but it did finally get pretty clean. My experience with Nottingham has been similar.
     
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    I will throw another opinion in. How about something very simple like 100% pils malt, noble hops, and a clean ale yeast fermented on the cool side (~60F)? US05, W34/70, WLP029 are all good options. Basically shoot for something pilsneresque
     
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    Just brew any recipe with any dry lager yeast. Those all taste like ales to me!
     
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    I really like cream ales for a lager-like beer.
     
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    I like the idea. you guys have given me some good feedback. thankyou
     
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    Kolsch yeast ferments very well at cooler temps, and I frequently use it in place of lager yeast where I can't actually use a lager yeast.
     
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    Cali lager yeast could be a good option as well.
     
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