Agree. I finally found a saison I liked and am trying to clone their recipe: a hibiscus ginger saison. When I get to brewing it (once the snow stops), I"ll run my grain bill by the forum and see what everyone thinks.Cheers Brian I'm sure you'll love brewing here my beers have gotten a lot better from the tips and tweeks to recipie sive recieved here. Beer recipe brainstorming. Why have one set of eyes and brain look at a recipe when a dozen can help win win all round .