Grain colour in ECB

Discussion in 'Feature Requests' started by Brewer #52625, Feb 26, 2016.

  1. Si-Co Brewing

    Si-Co Brewing New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    London
    I would like to be able use the ECB colour rating for grain and beer. The stores that I purchase my grain from describe the colour in ECB. When putting a recipe together I then need to convert it in to Lovibond so that I can work out which option matches my grain. This is time consuming and frustrating.

    Please could you allow an option to select the colour rating that you would like to use in your profile at which point the grain colour in the fermentables list would automatically be displayed in ECB or Lovibond. Alternatively, could you just list both Lovibond and EBC next to each grain.

    Thanks
     
  2. Brewer #60752

    Brewer #60752 New Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2016
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    I also support this request. In my opinion, Brewer's Friend is a great tool, but has some unit conversion pitfalls. I always brew using European units, and for me ppg and lovibond make no sense. Please, convert them to sugar fermentable % and EBC.
     
  3. Mr Norman

    Mr Norman New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2016
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    I would also use Brewers Friend if it supported EBC as would many using European ingredients and standards
     
  4. Ozarks Mountain Brew

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Messages:
    7,767
    Likes Received:
    3,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Managment
    Location:
    The Ozark Mountains of Missouri
    It is in there, under edit and more tab, also in your profile/defaults
     
  5. anchr

    anchr New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2016
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Trondheim, Norway
    No, not really. That option will appear to select the equation for calculating the recipe colour. Even if that is useful, there are still two problems:

    1) The label still says 'SRM' not 'EBC', although the number changes to EBC.
    2) Ingredients under 'Fermentables' are still shown as Lovibond.

    Although I do not have any strong preferences for Lovibond or EBC, I live in Europe, and everything around me operates on EBC: competition style guides, producers, brew shops etc.

    Brewer's Friend is a great resource ... but the EBC-issue is the one major pain (in addition to ppg) that keeps me from using it, except for the occasionally double checking a recipe that I've worked on in another system. It is inferior to Brewer's Friend on some other points, but it does support EBC.
     
  6. Ozarks Mountain Brew

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Messages:
    7,767
    Likes Received:
    3,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Managment
    Location:
    The Ozark Mountains of Missouri
    so what your saying is you went to your profile and general settings then "Recipe Editor Settings", changed everything and it still doesn't work?
     
  7. Si-Co Brewing

    Si-Co Brewing New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    London
    Yes, that only changes the colour of the beer, not the ingredients from the ingredients lists.
     
  8. Ozarks Mountain Brew

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Messages:
    7,767
    Likes Received:
    3,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Managment
    Location:
    The Ozark Mountains of Missouri
    if under Recipe Editor Settings: in general settings are correct set to metric and you pull up a us based recipe and want it changed you have to manually change it in the recipe using edit units: and also more and anything under Equation, then at the bottom right Sugar Scale, then save it should work
     
  9. StianBU

    StianBU New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2015
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Changing to EBC in profile settings works somewhat for the output beer color*, but does nothing at all for using EBC instead of Lovibond for ingredients, which is where it matters most since using an external converter is an irritating extra step.


    * The numbers displayed in recipe viewer change to EBC values but are still labeled SRM.
     
    underdogs likes this.
  10. underdogsbrewery

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2016
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Roma
    Please update grain in ebc colour if possible
     
  11. Noisy Cat Brewery

    Noisy Cat Brewery New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2016
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    I support this idea as the crystal colours don't match what is in my local shop.
     
  12. Si-Co Brewing

    Si-Co Brewing New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    London
    Going to bump this to see if it can get any more traction. I know there are a lot of UK and European brewers who would love to have grain colour displayed in ECB in the fermentables drop down.

    Thanks
     
  13. Black Lion Homebrewery

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2015
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Central Kentucky
    When you switch units in recipe editor, not only does the color units not change but it also leaves ppg and doesn't change the weight of hops. I would expect changing the unit system would change all units.
     
  14. Portsparky

    Portsparky New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2018
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Yep, a bit frustrating here in Australia as well, and confusing for a new all grain brewer. Please update this.
     

Share This Page

arrow_white