Black malt & coffee mead

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  1. strogermead

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    I want to know if anyone have negative experiences with (cold brewed) coffee in primary fermentation.

    I like to experiment. Now I'm planning to make a mead with cold brewed coffee (then sanitised by heating) and ferment it with some malting chocolate and roasted barley. And a somewhat dark honey. SRM 17 / EBC 34.
     
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    ive used coffee in primary and after fermentation with great results. got a recipie?
     
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    I've never heard of using roasted malts in a mead and have no advice whatsoever for you. I'm just hoping to hear about how it is once you've brewed it.
    Thank you in advance
     
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    whats the DP on that Mash? just wondering how well that grist is going to convert without base malt. oh ok your using them as colour /flavour steep?
     
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    Using the malt as colour / flavor / body :) I'll do a test with the ingredients first, to see / taste what I get when combining them.
     
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    Just an update: Now having tried the ingredients the only taste I get is ashes with some coffee. But still I suppose I have to go through with it, hoping the honey from the Brazilian mountains will back me up. Even thought of a name; silent, dark and sad. From a Norwegian song about taking a girl home from an after party. Hooray.
     
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    Sometimes you just have to commit to it and hope it turns out in the end.
     
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    Just a thought but if you kept it to the sweeter side just a bit, it may turn the ashes around to blend with the coffee. Hope it turns out, sounds interesting. Cheers!
     
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    I think I've found a good blend already, having 3-4 attempts on the kitchen counter :) Thought I'd stop it at 1.006, not too sweet because of the lack of bitterness. But we'll see when sweetening after fermentation.
     
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    Sounds like you're making a braggot of sorts, honey & malt. Dark roasts have a bitterness to them you may not want, lighter roasts give a more pleasant coffee flavor. Three methods are, 1) Toss a few ounces in secondary, 2) blend with cold brewed coffee, 3) staggered additions during fermentation. All three of these work, just depends on how much coffee you want.
     
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    The small amount of malt doesn't qualify it to be a braggot. And I'm not really going for å coffee mead, just want to see what I get when combining the ingrediens Might be shit, might be gold
     
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    According to BJCP, there is no "qualified" amount of malt needed. The overall impression must be a "harmonious blend of mead and beer." The rumor that it had to be 50% of one or another is an old wives tale.
     
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    The old wives told me 25, but ok :)
     
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    A short week on bottle:
    Smell: A mix of 2/3 coffee and 1/3 black malts. Smells quite good. Good balance. Not too sweet.
    Taste: Coffee pops right out but is quickly replaced by a shortlived bitterness. The black malts make an entrance, but the quite potent coffee is what stays in the after taste. Semisweet. I keep forgetting i have honey in this thing.

    I used more coffee than I planned since I thought didn't have enough and panicked. Should have stayed with the original plan. I suppose the tastes will come better together with time.
     

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    Off topic but...............I would like to try and make some Mead, seems like you would be the one to ask for a good mead recipe from. (I checked your website but..........not my language..lol)
     
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    What kind of mead do you want to make? My first one was a rousing success, ready to drink in 6 weeks, nice flavors, nothing hot or boozy about it....
     
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    You could start with a (perhaps boring) base mead: water, honey, yeast and nutrients. Get the basics right. You could also just boil a tea for 15 minutes out of almost anything with taste or bitterness and add it, either with the fermentation or when racking afterwords.

    A good place to go for guidance is gotmead.com's mead guide. I don't follow their nutrients regime, just use Wyeast nutrients for wine :)
     
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    I've tried to translate this video, to show off my mad skills to the world ... :)
     
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