this is a standard amber recipe, use what ever finishing hop you want in place of cascade but this is good
https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/506066/amber-ale
I'm not really set up to do a lager since I don't have a fridge to age it in. But I'm pretty anxious to try your fat tire one -- sounds pretty good. Thanks for the replies.I have about a dozen amber's, it's my favorite style and my best is a lager with Vienna in it, that fat tire is good too