Shiner Bock-Ale

[Texas Ale Works]

This is my inspiration From BYO 2004....lol

Understanding the Shiner is not a "classic" example of a Bock

Spoetzl Brewery: Shiner Bock clone
(5 gallons/19 L, all-grain)
OG = 1.043 FG 1.010
IBU = 17 SRM = 16 ABV = 4.3%

Ingredients
3 lbs. (1.36 kg) 6-row pale malt
3 lbs. (1.36 kg) Vienna malt (4 °L)
2.66 lbs. (1.21 kg) corn grits
0.66 lbs. (0.29 kg) crystal malt (60 °L)
3 oz. (86 g) roasted barley (500 °L)
4.62 AAU Brewer’s Gold hops (60 min.) (0.6 oz./16 g at 8% alpha acids)

This is where I am
What the Bock | International Amber Lager BIAB Beer Recipe | Brewer's Friend (brewersfriend.com)

STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.049
Final Gravity: 1.012
ABV (standard): 4.87%
IBU (tinseth): 14.72
SRM (morey): 18.66
Mash pH: 5.4

FERMENTABLES:
4 lb - Pale Ale (37.4%)
4 lb - Munich Dark 20L (37.4%)
2 lb - Flaked Corn (18.7%)
0.5 lb - Caramel / Crystal 60L (4.7%)
3 oz - Black Barley (1.8%)

HOPS:
0.5 oz - Brewer's Gold, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: First Wort, IBU: 14.72

I actually want to brew this as an Ale...so I am looking for not only feedback on the grist/hops but a Dry yeast that will complement the "Bock" character.

thanks

 

[Texas Ale Works]

This was going to be my next brew, but the American Stout is going to be next so I can brew it twice before October...I want to enter it as my fist ever competition entry.

 

[Bonsai & Brew II]

Maybe try Mangrove Jacks M54 California Lager?

 

[Ward Chillington]

Any specific reason for using 6 row over 2 row?

 

[dmtaylor]

Your recipe looks good. If you are looking for a good dry yeast, either S-189 or W-34/70 will work well for this.

 

[Texas Ale Works]

Any specific reason for using 6 row over 2 row?

the pasted grain bill is my inspiration....i am using 2 row Pale Ale and Dark Munich

 

[Ward Chillington]

Ok...I was gonna offer this write up on 6 v 2 row

homebrewersassociation.org/zymurgy/zymurgy-extra-2-row-vs-6-row-barley/

 

[Texas Ale Works]

Ok...I was gonna offer this write up on 6 v 2 row

homebrewersassociation.org/zymurgy/zymurgy-extra-2-row-vs-6-row-barley/

That is a great article

 

[Blackmuse]

This is my inspiration From BYO 2004....lol

Understanding the Shiner is not a "classic" example of a Bock

Spoetzl Brewery: Shiner Bock clone
(5 gallons/19 L, all-grain)
OG = 1.043 FG 1.010
IBU = 17 SRM = 16 ABV = 4.3%

Ingredients
3 lbs. (1.36 kg) 6-row pale malt
3 lbs. (1.36 kg) Vienna malt (4 °L)
2.66 lbs. (1.21 kg) corn grits
0.66 lbs. (0.29 kg) crystal malt (60 °L)
3 oz. (86 g) roasted barley (500 °L)
4.62 AAU Brewer’s Gold hops (60 min.) (0.6 oz./16 g at 8% alpha acids)

This is where I am
What the Bock | International Amber Lager BIAB Beer Recipe | Brewer's Friend (brewersfriend.com)

STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.049
Final Gravity: 1.012
ABV (standard): 4.87%
IBU (tinseth): 14.72
SRM (morey): 18.66
Mash pH: 5.4

FERMENTABLES:
4 lb - Pale Ale (37.4%)
4 lb - Munich Dark 20L (37.4%)
2 lb - Flaked Corn (18.7%)
0.5 lb - Caramel / Crystal 60L (4.7%)
3 oz - Black Barley (1.8%)

HOPS:
0.5 oz - Brewer's Gold, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: First Wort, IBU: 14.72

I actually want to brew this as an Ale...so I am looking for not only feedback on the grist/hops but a Dry yeast that will complement the "Bock" character.

thanks

I second the choice for 34/70 but you may want to mash on the high side as it attenuates pretty well. I can see it taking this down below 1.012... Not sure which dry yeast will leave a maltier profile - with little yeast character and high flocculation.

 

[Texas Ale Works]

well, as usual I may be over thinking it....This is supposed to be a lager, so I am sure I can just throw Notty or 05 at it and it will be fine.
and I have at least 3 of each I need to use, also have some 33

 

[dmtaylor]

well, as usual I may be over thinking it....This is supposed to be a lager, so I am sure I can just throw Notty or 05 at it and it will be fine.
and I have at least 3 of each I need to use, also have some 33

Out of those three, Notty might be best... but of course would be an ale rather than a lager.

 

[Texas Ale Works]

Out of those three, Notty might be best... but of course would be an ale rather than a lager.

yeah,i need to Ale this one...not enuff room, and i have to try and brew an American Stout twice before Oct....I am going to enter my first comp

 

[Steve Ruch]

Out of those three, Notty might be best... but of course would be an ale rather than a lager.

Nottingham works well down to the lower 50s.

 

[miaamelia]

This is my inspiration From BYO 2004....lol

Understanding the Shiner is not a "classic" example of a Bock

Spoetzl Brewery: Shiner Bock clone
(5 gallons/19 L, all-grain)
OG = 1.043 FG 1.010
IBU = 17 SRM = 16 ABV = 4.3%

Ingredients
3 lbs. (1.36 kg) 6-row pale malt
3 lbs. (1.36 kg) Vienna malt (4 °L)
2.66 lbs. (1.21 kg) corn grits
0.66 lbs. (0.29 kg) crystal malt (60 °L)
3 oz. (86 g) roasted barley (500 °L)
4.62 AAU Brewer’s Gold hops (60 min.) (0.6 oz./16 g at 8% alpha acids)

This is where I am
What the Bock | International Amber Lager BIAB Beer Recipe | Brewer's Friend (brewersfriend.com)

STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.049
Final Gravity: 1.012
ABV (standard): 4.87%
IBU (tinseth): 14.72
SRM (morey): 18.66
Mash pH: 5.4

FERMENTABLES:
4 lb - Pale Ale (37.4%)
4 lb - Munich Dark 20L (37.4%)
2 lb - Flaked Corn (18.7%)
0.5 lb - Caramel / Crystal 60L (4.7%)
3 oz - Black Barley (1.8%)

HOPS:
0.5 oz - Brewer's Gold, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: First Wort, IBU: 14.72

I actually want to brew this as an Ale online...so I am looking for not only feedback on the grist/hops but a Dry yeast that will complement the "Bock" character.

thanks

If you're looking to brew a Shiner Bock clone as an ale instead of a lager, you can make some adjustments to the recipe to accommodate the different yeast and fermentation conditions. Here's a modified version of the recipe you provided, with a dry yeast recommendation:

Shiner Bock Ale Clone Recipe: (5 gallons/19 L, all-grain)

Ingredients:

• 4 lbs. (1.81 kg) Pale Ale malt
• 4 lbs. (1.81 kg) Munich Dark 20L malt
• 2 lbs. (0.91 kg) Flaked Corn
• 0.5 lb (0.23 kg) Caramel/Crystal 60L malt
• 3 oz. (85 g) Black Barley

Hops:

• 0.5 oz. (14 g) Brewer's Gold hops (9% AA) - First Wort Hop addition

Yeast: For an ale yeast option, you can use Safale US-05. It's a widely available and popular dry yeast that can provide clean fermentation and allow the malt flavors to shine. It will complement the "Bock" character in your ale version.

Fermentation: Ferment this beer at a temperature range suitable for the Safale US-05 yeast, around 64-70°F (18-21°C) for optimal results.

The modified recipe retains the key ingredients of the original Shiner Bock clone recipe while adapting it for an ale fermentation. This will result in a beer with similar flavors and characteristics, but with ale yeast characteristics instead of a lager yeast.

As always, make sure to adjust your brewing process and procedures to suit your equipment, preferences, and local conditions. Enjoy brewing your Shiner Bock ale clone!

 

[dmtaylor]

US-05 is too highly attenuative for a clone of this beer. Of the options previously discussed, Notty would still be best. And if I had my choice of any dry ale yeast, I would probably choose S-04, which ferments clean and lager-like, without the super high attenuation of US-05.

It's been a while now... @Texas Ale Works, what yeast did you end up using, and how did it turn out?