Comments on: First Wort Hopping

By: Larry

Larry — Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:04:24 +0000

Hi Aaron,
I think you are on the right track there, in terms of FWHing with your aromatic hops. You’ll have to dial it in for your taste.

I’ve added the 10% boost idea for FWH to my ‘todo’ list on the IBU calculator.

By: Aaron

Aaron — Tue, 07 Jun 2011 18:46:39 +0000

Hi Larry,
Thanks for you reply. I found the 10% increase in ibu from a couple of sites. This is a link from beersmith. http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/

I think i saved the other sites that talks about the ~10% increase in the ibu for fwh.

A couple of sites state that most people do not notice the ~10% increase. Did my 30% of my 0-20mins sound ok.
Nice site and keep up the good work!
Thanks,

By: Larry

Larry — Tue, 07 Jun 2011 05:25:49 +0000

Hi Aaron,
That is an interesting idea about FWH and bittering. Could you please refer us to your source regarding FWH leading to a 10% higher IBU?

The boil time is in theory the same. If anything the first wort hops are soaking in steaming wort until the boil starts, which will carry away some of the alpha and beta acids through evaporation. I bet that is why there is less bittering potential.

I need to update the IBU calculator for Brewing In A Bag, and for First Wort Hopping.

By: Aaron

Aaron — Mon, 30 May 2011 18:47:01 +0000

Hi, Question(s):

I would use 30% of my total hop bill from my 0-20min (below example) and not my hop bill from 30-60min.

Another question. Does your IBU cal (on site) have a space for FWH? I did not see it but just wanted to make sure i was not missing it. I read it will be ~10% Higher IBU.

Example:

2.75oz = Total hop bill (0-20min):

.675oz = 30% of my hop bill

I would use .675oz of hop for FWH

0.75 oz Cascade [5.70 %] (20 min) Hops
0.75 oz Cascade [5.70 %] (10 min) Hops
0.75 oz Cascade [5.70 %] (0 min) Hops

Cheers,

By: Conversion Factor | Breakpoint Brewery

Conversion Factor | Breakpoint Brewery — Mon, 30 May 2011 00:32:34 +0000

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By: adding hops before boil - Home Brew Forums

adding hops before boil - Home Brew Forums — Sun, 13 Feb 2011 01:16:18 +0000

[...] Originally Posted by Shinglejohn Same difference. It sounds like it's pretty close but not quite, according to this article I just found, (see last paragraph) The hops should be steeped for 20-30 min before the boil. http://www.brewersfriend.com/2009/05/09/first-wort-hopping/ [...]

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German Lager Recipe All Grain | Brewer's Friend — Tue, 14 Sep 2010 07:36:34 +0000

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By: Larry

Larry — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:58:54 +0000

For extract, to simulate this, I would do the following:
1) Steep as normal.
2) When steeping is done and wort is at 165F, add ~2 lb of extract (mix in well), then add the first wort hops.
3) Fire kettle to boiling and proceed as normal.

This will give 10-20 minutes for the hops to soak in with the extract sugars. This approximates the time line for first wort hopping in an all-grain brewing process.

For extract batches, I highly recommend saving the last 50-60% of extract for the last 10 minutes of the boil for lighter beers.

By: Phil

Phil — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:40:50 +0000

For an extract kit with steeping grains, would I steep first with the grains, then add the extract, then FWH for 20-30 mins?

How about first wort hopping right off the bat with the steeping grains for 20-30 mins? Would this not result in the complex hop oil reactions that you want with FWH?

By: JT

JT — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:21:32 +0000

Got it and thanks for the help and the site. I just recently found it and I am really enjoying the articles. The checklists and calculators are very helpful as well.